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The Best of Squadron Patches

Started by Pylon, January 09, 2006, 08:41:09 pm

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Major Carrales

Our subhunters used to use this...we may have to bring it back in a modern form!
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

isuhawkeye

The Iowa "Black Sheep" were named after the CAP squadron worked the crash in which a member of that particular military squadron was killed.  the squadron is named in honor of that Aviator

SeattleSarge

Seattle Composite Squadron Emblem...



I call this our "Frasier" patch as the skyline (Space Needle) looks like the opening graphic in the TV show...

-SeattleSarge


Ronald G. Kruml, TSgt, CAP
Public Affairs - Mission Aircrewman
Seattle Composite Squadron PCR-WA-018
http://www.capseattlesquadron.org

ddelaney103

Quote from: SeattleSarge on August 22, 2007, 10:40:07 pm
Seattle Composite Squadron Emblem...



I call this our "Frasier" patch as the skyline (Space Needle) looks like the opening graphic in the TV show...

-SeattleSarge


I like it - but you do understand that that's a major "no no" under the guidance on the use of the "origami eagle," don't you?

http://www.af.mil/library/symbol/displaying.asp

QuoteChanging the size of the symbol, as necessary, is encouraged and appropriate however, other manipulations of the symbol are not. Examples of manipulations include, but are not limited to:

Stretching/distorting the signature, logotype or symbol
Adding or subtracting anything from the symbol
Cradling anything inside the symbol not approved/registered with Air Force Historical Research Agency
Drawing or portraying objects coming through or protruding from the symbol
Using unapproved colors
Adding shadows or special effects
Changing the symbol's texture

CAPLAW

GROUP 5 Florida Wing :)

floridacyclist

Here's the final version...



Comments? If I understand them, this should be in accordance with established standards, but parts of that confused me a little.

Is there a process to registering a squadron seal for historical archival etc? I noticed it appeared on the wing website.
Gene Floyd, Capt CAP
Wearer of many hats, master of none (but senior-rated in two)
www.tallahasseecap.org
www.rideforfatherhood.org

jimmydeanno

^Hey...that's slick!  I like the wing busting out of the circle.  I am always a little leary of white on the patches though...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

SeattleSarge

Quote from: ddelaney103 on August 23, 2007, 02:26:36 am

I like it - but you do understand that that's a major "no no" under the guidance on the use of the "origami eagle," don't you?


I figured there might be an issue with that, but the decision is way above my pay grade...

-SeattleSarge


Ronald G. Kruml, TSgt, CAP
Public Affairs - Mission Aircrewman
Seattle Composite Squadron PCR-WA-018
http://www.capseattlesquadron.org

ddelaney103

Quote from: floridacyclist on August 23, 2007, 02:53:43 pm
Here's the final version...



Comments? If I understand them, this should be in accordance with established standards, but parts of that confused me a little.



I'm afraid that design is much more suited for a computer graphic than the world of embroidered patches.

I would suggest shrinking it down to patch size (around 3" high) and looking at it from a distance from 5 to 8 feet.  You will find the detail and the similar colors will blend into an indistinct patch.

I would also suggest ditching the sqdn number.  That will just be annoying code to the average viewer.

LtCol White

Quote from: ddelaney103 on August 23, 2007, 06:28:31 pm
Quote from: floridacyclist on August 23, 2007, 02:53:43 pm
Here's the final version...



Comments? If I understand them, this should be in accordance with established standards, but parts of that confused me a little.



I'm afraid that design is much more suited for a computer graphic than the world of embroidered patches.

I would suggest shrinking it down to patch size (around 3" high) and looking at it from a distance from 5 to 8 feet.  You will find the detail and the similar colors will blend into an indistinct patch.

I would also suggest ditching the sqdn number.  That will just be annoying code to the average viewer.


Looks great. Having a lot of experience with designing patches, I have to agree that you will encounter problems when making it into a patch. You will lose a lot of the small detail you see now.
LtCol David P. White CAP   
HQ LAWG

Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

Stonewall

Here's an unofficial "squadron patch" for ya.  Yep, you guessed it, this is from my cadet daze when we all wanted to emulate Rangers. 

It is modeled after the old school 1st Ranger BN scroll.  We made a handful of these for our unofficial jungle fatigues with subdued CAP tapes and insignia.  NO, we never ever wore them other than when we were "playing ranger" away from CAP.  This patch is about 18 years old.




Stonewall

Mount Vernon Composite (MER-DC-045) and Fairfax Composite Squadrons (MER-DC-053).


floridacyclist

Quote from: LtCol White on August 23, 2007, 07:20:52 pm

Looks great. Having a lot of experience with designing patches, I have to agree that you will encounter problems when making it into a patch. You will lose a lot of the small detail you see now.


I can handle losing some of the detail...I need to find a decent digitizing program that I can figure out how to use so I can see what it looks like as a patch
Gene Floyd, Capt CAP
Wearer of many hats, master of none (but senior-rated in two)
www.tallahasseecap.org
www.rideforfatherhood.org

alamrcn

As long as whomever places the order doesn't "cheep out" with the lowest bidder, I've seen more complex patches come out just fine. The main problem area will be on the far right, where the gray parts will only be a few stiches tall.

I'd suggest giving them separate artwork - or even a photograph of the skyline - and let the manufacturer's layout people put together a "proof" for you. They will do it based on your concept, but better suited to what their loom is capable of. This will tell you if you need to look for someone else with better technology to make it or not.

Perhaps the removal, or relocation of the charter number, will give more room to play with the details. The size that appears above is good - a 3" diameter disk is pretty standard, but don't make it 3" tall including the tabs.

HEY, KIRT!  Can I use those three images on my website? I'll certainly will acknowledge your contribution... or deny it if you prefer.

-Ace





Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

Stonewall

Quote from: alamrcn on August 27, 2007, 03:14:58 pmHEY, KIRT!  Can I use those three images on my website? I'll certainly will acknowledge your contribution... or deny it if you prefer.


Yep, use'em up.  Let me know if you need more info on them.  Also, CAPLAW started a thread about the FLWG patch in the "Marketplace" where I posted a picture of a subdued FLWG patch.  Use that as well.  A  bit of "unofficial" history on the subdued patches.

alamrcn

Yes, please. I'll document as much info as I can get on each piece. If you've been around the CAP Patches website at all, you'll see anything from a small notation as to the designer or authorization date to a "HISTORY" link that leads to a separate page with full write-ups on a patch.

Related, look at the bottom submissions of the Connecticut Wing patch page...
http://www.incountry.us/cappatches/CT/

Drop me an e-mail and I'll publish whatever you can provide. I'll check out the Marketplace also for the Florida sudued patch.

-Ace




Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

RiverAux

Should the Tallahassee patch have the CAP overseas insignia within it?  Seems a little odd.  Looks great, but I agree would probably not work as an actual patch. 

ddelaney103

Quote from: RiverAux on August 27, 2007, 03:44:01 pm
Should the Tallahassee patch have the CAP overseas insignia within it?  Seems a little odd.  Looks great, but I agree would probably not work as an actual patch. 


I believe that's the WW2 patch, which doesn't have the rocker.

alamrcn

Quote from: RiverAux on August 27, 2007, 03:44:01 pm
Should the Tallahassee patch have the CAP overseas insignia within it?


It is my opinion, as well as several HO's greater than I, that ALL Civil Air Patrol patches should have this. Sure, it is NOW part of the overseas cadet unit shoulder patch... but it was FIRST the only patch all of us wore. Insignia wise, it is the conception of our organization.

Maybe go without the U.S. though.




Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

floridacyclist

August 27, 2007, 05:08:38 pm #279 Last Edit: August 27, 2007, 11:54:55 pm by floridacyclist
Quote from: alamrcn on August 27, 2007, 03:14:58 pm
As long as whomever places the order doesn't "cheep out" with the lowest bidder, I've seen more complex patches come out just fine. The main problem area will be on the far right, where the gray parts will only be a few stiches tall.
That's fine..those aren't specific details, just impressionistic shadows and dark areas, perhaps buildings. You can't really see what they are in the patch, but you can't see them in the photo either
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I'd suggest giving them separate artwork - or even a photograph of the skyline - and let the manufacturer's layout people put together a "proof" for you. They will do it based on your concept, but better suited to what their loom is capable of. This will tell you if you need to look for someone else with better technology to make it or not.
That might be a thought. I have all of the source documents, from the photograph of the skyline and capitol building to the screenshot from MS Flightsim and all steps in between including the initial conversion to vector format.
QuotePerhaps the removal, or relocation of the charter number, will give more room to play with the details. The size that appears above is good - a 3" diameter disk is pretty standard, but don't make it 3" tall including the tabs.
I've heard yay and nay on the charter number. Even if it goes, I probably won't put anything in it's place...just solid green, or maybe more impressionistic green and gray "clutter"...shadows and such. We were figuring a 3" disk with 1/2" rockers. Come to think of it, taking out the numbers might bring the cost down too. We'll see as the design has already been approved as far as I know..not sure how many "improvements" we can make to it once that has happened, but I'm sure there is a process for it.
Gene Floyd, Capt CAP
Wearer of many hats, master of none (but senior-rated in two)
www.tallahasseecap.org
www.rideforfatherhood.org