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CAPR 39-1, 5 March 2020

Started by NIN, March 05, 2020, 08:39:44 pm

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etodd

Just glancing at the "Summary of Changes" .... pages 1 and 2 ... it doesn't appear to be many revisions at all.
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jeders

Quote from: undefinedChapter 11. Removes the height limitation for ribbons and badges on the service uniforms.

Honestly, this is the item that makes me the happiest about this latest revision; cloth rank and name tags on the flight suit and tan t-shirts with nearly every utility uniform are nothing compared to this in my book.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

NIN

Quote from: etodd on March 05, 2020, 08:43:13 pmJust glancing at the "Summary of Changes" .... pages 1 and 2 ... it doesn't appear to be many revisions at all.

That summary might not show *all* the changes.

The last page contains a number of sunset dates, some of which are new.
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Quote from: jeders on March 05, 2020, 08:47:16 pm
Quote from: undefinedChapter 11. Removes the height limitation for ribbons and badges on the service uniforms.

Honestly, this is the item that makes me the happiest about this latest revision; cloth rank and name tags on the flight suit and tan t-shirts with nearly every utility uniform are nothing compared to this in my book.

After I just got my ultra-thins built with "some" to keep me under the limit. :)
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Eclipse

March 05, 2020, 08:59:48 pm #5 Last Edit: March 05, 2020, 09:29:16 pm by Eclipse
Berets issued by NBB will not be worn outside the activity after Aug June 2021.

Ranger tabs, belts, and headgear issued by HMRS will not be worn outside the activity after Aug June 2021.

Mini medals now authorized for wear on Corporate Semi-formal.

White turtleneck approved with blazer combination (but not semi-formal).

Tan T-shirt worn with all field uniform variants and flight suits.

dark-blue cloth grade authoized for green flight suits.

Cloth nametag authorized for flight suits and jackets.

Allows for the wear of green or black watchcap.



kcebnaes

(Not uniform related)

They also put out a couple of new pamphlets on Command Directed Investigations.
Sean Beck, Maj, CAP
Great Lakes Region sUAS Officer
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arajca

Phasing out old USAF service coat - 1 Aug 2021.

Eclipse

Senior Member NCOs do not wear a hat device on the flight cap.



jeders

Still have the wrong color for the FDU, should be sage, not olive drab; oh well, maybe next time they'll get that right.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

jeders

Also, the CWU (polo) is again listed as being equivalent to the AF-style service uniforms. So the polo really is the only uniform many senior members need, practically speaking.
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baronet68

It's now a "regulation" instead of a "manual".
Michael Moore, Maj, CAP
National Recruiting & Retention Manager

baronet68

Might have found a typo...  Bottom of page 127 (Attachment 4), regarding the Model Rocketry Patch.  The table lists "L/P" for ABU and BDU but "L/RP" for Corporate Field Uniform. 

Previous version stated "L/RP" for the Model Rocketry Patch on BDUs.

Since "L/P" isn't in the abbreviations key, was the intent to be "LP" for left pocket or "L/RP" for either left or right pocket?
Michael Moore, Maj, CAP
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ßτε

The paragraph numbering in Chapter 4 is all messed up.

4.1.6 should be 4.1.5.3
4.1.7 should be 4.1.6
4.1.8 should be 4.1.6.3
4.1.9 should be 4.1.7

There are other inconsistencies.

ßτε

Quote10.3.1. Cadet Model Rocketry Badge. Authorized to be worn by cadets when awarded by the unit commander in accordance with the requirements of CAPR 50-20, CAP Model Rocketry Program.
CAPR 50-20 has been rescinded.

I_Am_Twigs

Finally!

I'm just glad I don't have to reference an improper document for guidance anymore!

I am, however, a bit bummed that they still haven't added a standard for color guard
uniforms.  As well as the restriction that remains on the beret.

But that's alright, I can survive without either.
C/Capt, CAP
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i_am_a_politician

Quote11.1.5. CAP members wearing a civilian tuxedo or business suit for formal occasions may elect to wear miniature CAP medals on the left breast. Female members may wear miniature medals on equivalent dress. No other badges or devices will be worn.

Oh god please no.
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sardak

It's interesting that this reg seems to have appeared here, without being posted on the preview page first, which I check almost every day:

REGULATIONS LISTED BELOW ARE AVAILABLE FOR PREVIEW FOR 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THEIR EFFECTIVE DATE (IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE Concept of Operations for CAP Publications Reengineering). https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/members/publications/regulations-for-preview

CAPR 70-1, CAP Flight Management and 28 associated documents are posted on the preview page right now.

Mike

PHall

Quote from: i_am_a_politician on March 06, 2020, 02:17:05 am
Quote11.1.5. CAP members wearing a civilian tuxedo or business suit for formal occasions may elect to wear miniature CAP medals on the left breast. Female members may wear miniature medals on equivalent dress. No other badges or devices will be worn.

Oh god please no.


They do it the UK with no problems. So what's the problem?

ßτε

Quote1.4.2. Adult individuals without Grade pursuing NCO promotions will wear the USAF-style uniform (except Mess Dress, which is not authorized for individuals without grade) and Corporate uniforms as for NCOs without wearing any grade insignia.

1.4.2.1. USAF-style Uniforms. With the Service Dress Uniform (Class A), these individuals will wear the service coat without epaulets, flight cap with blue braid, and CAP collar insignia. With the Blue Service Uniform (Class B), these individuals will wear the flight cap with blue braid. On the Battle Dress Uniform, these individuals will wear no insignia. These individuals will not wear Mess Dress
What about ABUs?