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new ID card after promitions?

Started by Woodsy, September 08, 2011, 12:28:35 am

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Woodsy

Does NHQ automatically send out a new card after a promotion, or do you have to request/pay for one through E-services?  If they do, how long does it usually take? 

NCRblues

Quote from: Woodsy on September 08, 2011, 12:28:35 am
Does NHQ automatically send out a new card after a promotion, or do you have to request/pay for one through E-services?  If they do, how long does it usually take?


Nope, only one per year, unless you want to buy a new one. Takes a couple weeks...
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Eclipse

Are we talking cadets or seniors?

Seniors get a new one when promoted.



Woodsy

Talking SM.  Was promoted to 2d Lt a couple weeks ago and was wondering if I need to do something to get a new card, or just wait for it to come in the mail.

NCRblues

Quote from: Eclipse on September 08, 2011, 12:42:33 am
Are we talking cadets or seniors?

Seniors get a new one when promoted.


Senior used to get a new one when promoted. When I recently got promoted i waited and waited for a new one, so i called NHQ and asked. They told me no new cards unless i payed or re-uped...
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SARDOC

NCRBlues is absolutely correct.  With the Change SM's will only be issued a FREE Id Card when they renew their membership not with promotion unless the Member orders and pays for it.

Eclipse

So we're supposed to walk around with an ID card with the wrong grade?

The only cards they are issuing now are the photo ones, right?



Extremepredjudice

Quote from: Eclipse on September 08, 2011, 01:43:59 am
So we're supposed to walk around with an ID card with the wrong grade?

The only cards they are issuing now are the photo ones, right?
That will make the MPs happy. :)

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PHall

Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 08, 2011, 01:45:30 am
Quote from: Eclipse on September 08, 2011, 01:43:59 am
So we're supposed to walk around with an ID card with the wrong grade?

The only cards they are issuing now are the photo ones, right?
That will make the MPs happy. :)


That's if they will accept it in the first place. ::)

SARDOC

Quote from: Eclipse on September 08, 2011, 01:43:59 am
So we're supposed to walk around with an ID card with the wrong grade?


Well, That's completely up to you.  CAP is only paying for the ID on Membership Renewal.  If you want one with the new grade, you have to pay for it.  Civil Air Patrol just didn't want to Budget for promotion related ID cards when the member could just wait a few more months when they renew.

MSG Mac

When they did issue new cards upon request, promotion, and renewal they were sending out 150K or more for a membership of 62 thousand.  Big expense when they were cardboard, much bigger expense now that they have photos, holograms, and better quality. Not to mention postal costs which are about 50 cents apiece.
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MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

a2capt

If I get that thin flimsy thing for the next ID card, I'm going to just stop offering it at the gate. They already have made comments about this "cheesy" card, with it's corrupt looking gif graphic on it. One asked me if I just made it. 95% of the time no one says anything anyway. But..  it's a joke.

Woodsy

I can certainly understand the budget concerns.  I have no problem paying 3 bucks for a card, just didn't know if I needed to or if one was already on the way.  Thanks for the help.

NCRblues

I have a major problem paying $3 for a flimsy worthless id card that bends in the mailbox even before I get it.

The need to fix that problem fast.
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a2capt

Quote from: NCRblues on September 08, 2011, 03:46:45 amI have a major problem paying $3 for a flimsy worthless id card that bends in the mailbox even before I get it.
It's not worthless. Some committee determined it's worth $3  >:D  .. But we do need to solve the cheesy ID card problem.

JC004

I got my bent ID card that I mentioned before.  About a week later, I got this ID card.  YES, I have a photo in e-Services and the first card had it.


a2capt

Do you *still* have it in there? Or did it get yanked because you complained about the ID card and someone turned it into "the photo is bad"? ...

JC004

It's fine.  I am going to try a new picture though.

peter rabbit

If you need something with your new grade on it, what about - you can print the temporary card from eServices or the 101 from Ops Quals and put one of them with your photo ID. So far, have you had a problem with someone questioning the card because of the rank shown on it?

Eclipse

So far I haven't had the issue, but I regularly have to go through a base gate, and the gyards are attentive enough that they sometimes question members in a CAP uniform showing a CAC with a different grade.

It's one thing to not issue a new photo card when they are always issuing a library care with a promotion, but now that they are only allowing and issuing the photo cards, they should send one when you get a bump.

They saved money on me when I did two multi years in a row.