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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2011, 03:24:41 PM »

Since they removed the hologram thinger and they don't have a protective sheet over the front of the card, I really think we should splurge on ID cards that don't arrive FOLDED or aren't going to make people checking IDs go "was this printed out of a laser printer?".  Other than being annoying, this could set off alarms with base security or another some such people.  Isn't that WHY WE NEED THEM?  Internally, we rarely need a photo ID.

Also, since there seems to be confusion over the issue of promotions and ID cards.  When you get a promotion, e-Services should e-mail you and say "Congratulations, sucker!  You won't be receiving an updated ID card.  Click here to order a new ID card."  I think it's a good idea and a decent solution to get the word out since it was NOT that way for many years. 

Optionally, they could add a line that says something like "Click here to feed Vanguard.  They have lots of goodies with your new rank insignia on them!"  A referral commission would go to me because it was my idea and I would donate the money to cadet encampment, flight, and NCSA scholarships. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2011, 04:21:00 PM »

Also, since there seems to be confusion over the issue of promotions and ID cards.  When you get a promotion, e-Services should e-mail you and say "Congratulations, sucker!  You won't be receiving an updated ID card.  Click here to order a new ID card."  I think it's a good idea and a decent solution to get the word out since it was NOT that way for many years. 

This is especially important when you consider a lot of Seniors find out they were promoted when they notice it randomly on eServices.
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2011, 04:24:37 PM »

You know......on actiive duty when you get promoted you have to go and get your own CAC updated.  No one reminds you.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2011, 04:34:55 PM »

You know......on actiive duty when you get promoted you have to go and get your own CAC updated.  No one reminds you.

Yes, but the odds are you don't find out about the promotion randomly by accident, and do you have to pay for your new ID?
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2011, 04:37:34 PM »

You know......on active duty when you get promoted you have to go and get your own CAC updated.  No one reminds you.

Yes, but the odds are you don't find out about the promotion randomly by accident, and do you have to pay for your new ID?

Well......you should NEVER find out about your promotion randomly....if you do then bad on you! (unless it was a advanced promotion that they kept secret from you).

Secondly.....CAP is not a cheap endeavor.....if $3 is going to kill you (not to mention all the other costs for your uniforms) them maybe you should decline the promotion.
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2011, 05:27:25 PM »

Bad on me to find out about a promotion randomly?  How about bad on the commander who doesn't pay care enough to check and call me when it comes through.

Paying for a new ID card isn't going to kill anyone, it's more a principle thing.  It is what it is. 

I'm scared to see what the Tyvek-ish thing looks like from my recent renewal.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2011, 05:39:50 PM »

You know......on actiive duty when you get promoted you have to go and get your own CAC updated.  No one reminds you.

The process has changed.  That's what people need to know and that's what has to be spread in the field.

They change a lot of things that don't get to the average member, but this impacts each person.
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2011, 06:14:21 PM »

I agree.

The person you need to yell at is your Wing Commander.

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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »

I will have someone yell at him today. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2011, 06:32:43 PM »

Vote for me and I'll make the membership cards free.

and raise the national dues $3.00, so y'all will quit complaining.
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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2011, 06:42:42 PM »

No elections for a while, please.
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« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2011, 06:44:18 PM »

I really do not think the compliant here is against the $3 cost. I think the main complaint is the quality, or lack of on the ID cards...
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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2011, 06:53:49 PM »

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or lack of it on the ID cards...
Fixed that for you.
Exactly. The lack of it. It's embarrassing at times, to hand over something that looks like it was made in a Six Dollar Printer. What they had before, at least had substance to it. From what this sounds like now, it's like the cheesy 'temporary' cards you peel off the paper in solicitations for memberships, credit cards, etc.
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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2011, 06:57:46 PM »

I just got my new CAPID a few days ago......and I don't see anything wrong with the quality.

The printing is clean and clear, the photo is sharp and the layout is proffessional.

It is printed on plastic that is thinner then a credit card....but that is no different than many membership cards I get from other organisations.

Comparing my CAP ID with my military Retired ID card....the CAP ID looks more professional and is easer to read.
If you are concerned about how thin it is.....just run it through a laminator and be done with it.
I have had ZERO problems with getting onto base with it.....and I don't give a fart in a wind storm what the gate guard think about it.
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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2011, 07:05:12 PM »

What velocity wind?
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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2011, 07:09:24 PM »

...it's like the cheesy 'temporary' cards you peel off the paper in solicitations for memberships, credit cards, etc.

That's seriously what I thought was in the envelope before I opened it.  No joke.  I thought either that or one of those cards with the phone numbers that they used to send.
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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2011, 07:46:39 PM »

Hey, the phone number card makes a great name plate backing.. and you have the phone numbers handy! :)
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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2011, 08:37:15 PM »

They new card is kind of flimsy, but I have never actually used my CAP membership card for anything. I may have used it a handful of times as a cadet, but never as a SM. I do understand some people use it all the time though.

IMHO they made the right choice by not sending them out with promotions, It saves money and at the end of the day, you really don't need grade on it anyway. Simple solution: remove grade from the card. Problem solved.
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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2011, 04:02:09 AM »

The Public Affairs Officers should be sending out updates like this to the average members. All PAOs should take the blame on this.
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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2011, 04:06:19 AM »

The Public Affairs Officers should be sending out updates like this to the average members. All PAOs should take the blame on this.

Bull.

This is NHQ's screwup. It is their responsibility to spread this. We have an RSS feed in eservices after all.
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