Seems like a lot of MIWG folks on here...

Quote from: HistoryMemo on December 23, 2025, 05:21:45 AM

Quote from: Slim on December 09, 2025, 09:40:26 PM

Quote from: biomed441 on December 08, 2025, 05:16:22 PMOr, for those members who are AF Warrant officers and also members of CAP, which if I recall a few of the first graduates of the new warrant program are CAP members.  Would CAP Match their grade or require they progress through the CAP Officer program instead. 

One of those new WOs is a member of my wing, is currently a CAP SMSgt, our wing NCO advisor and IT director.  Unless/until CAP brings back warrant grades, he has no intention of changing that status.

I could see an instance where WOs might come back into CAP and be useful, but that is highly unlikely to happen, and I'm not really a proponent of it.  Just a passing thought I had while discussing some CP related items with a few others (sitting around trying to solve all of CAP's problems).

Otherwise, since we're all expected to be technical experts in one or more areas, with increasing levels of education, training and responsibilities, I really don't see much of a need for WOs in CAP.

Fellow member of MIWG I see...

Indeed, and also in your group.  Almost 43 years and counting.

Quote from: Slim on December 09, 2025, 09:40:26 PM

Quote from: biomed441 on December 08, 2025, 05:16:22 PMOr, for those members who are AF Warrant officers and also members of CAP, which if I recall a few of the first graduates of the new warrant program are CAP members.  Would CAP Match their grade or require they progress through the CAP Officer program instead. 

One of those new WOs is a member of my wing, is currently a CAP SMSgt, our wing NCO advisor and IT director.  Unless/until CAP brings back warrant grades, he has no intention of changing that status.

I could see an instance where WOs might come back into CAP and be useful, but that is highly unlikely to happen, and I'm not really a proponent of it.  Just a passing thought I had while discussing some CP related items with a few others (sitting around trying to solve all of CAP's problems).

Otherwise, since we're all expected to be technical experts in one or more areas, with increasing levels of education, training and responsibilities, I really don't see much of a need for WOs in CAP.

Fellow member of MIWG I see...

It has been years since I had any dealings with the individual who ran that site (and I have worked with MANY people in my almost 50 years in the organization), but, if memory serves, I am fairly sure that it is the same individual who was also behind the old "TeamCAP" private CAP History website, who can be looked up in the CAPTALK archives, if someone wished to try to contact him. That is, if the contact info in his CAPTALK account is still valid to try to reach him, because it has been a LONG time since anyone in CAP has heard from him.

I'm looking for a set of Buillon Pilot Wings for the Mess Dress Uniform. Vanguard has Senior Pilot, Command Pilot and Observer, but Pilot is out of stock. Wing/Region Conference is in March, so maybe Vanguard will get some by then, I'd rather not take the chance. Anyone have a set they might want to sell?

Hello all,

Does anyone happen to know who used to run the CAPC History Project website? I see that user Cindi appears to have one of the earliest posts referencing it, but it didn't sound like it was their site.

I'm interested in trying to get a mirror online since the original went offline several years ago, but I'm missing quite a few of the photos, so hoping I can get in contact with the old owner.

Quote from: Shuman 14 on December 14, 2025, 04:21:59 PMPersonally I think all CAP Senior Members should be Warrant Officers...
 
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No NCO ranks and all Officer Ranks become temporary assignment so while you are the Squadron Commander you wear Captain's Bars, when your tour of duty is over, back to Warrant Officer you go.

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Do we really need the additional administrative burden? We seem to have enough trouble taking care of the existing system without adding more tasking at the national and local levels. We're talking about a new regulation, a new form, and updated eServices programming, among others. Then someone at the squadron needs to keep track of all this. The annual PAs will become even more of a nightmare.

QuoteWhy even make them Warrant Officers? Just make everyone a Senior Member without Grade. You accept a position that has a rank tied to it then you wear that grade but as soon as your term is over back to SM.

That would work too.

Quote from: Shuman 14 on December 14, 2025, 04:21:59 PMPersonally I think all CAP Senior Members should be Warrant Officers...
 
Senior Member Without Grade = CAP WO Candidate
Level 1 complete = CAP WO-1
Level 2 complete = CAP CWO-2
Level 3 complete = CAP CWO-3
Level 4 complete = CAP CWO-4
Level 5 complete = CAP CWO-5

No NCO ranks and all Officer Ranks become temporary assignment so while you are the Squadron Commander you wear Captain's Bars, when your tour of duty is over, back to Warrant Officer you go.

I can maybe see a way that successful CAP members could keep their appointed rank as a reward for a job well done and I can also see a grandfather clause for all current CAP member with rank, so not to strip anyone of rank they earned.

It would solve the perceived problem of Rank in CAP.

I would also recommend that we make the Rank Insignia a different color than the USAF Warrant Officer Insignia, Maybe make the the little squares Grey instead of Sky Blue.

Why even make them Warrant Officers? Just make everyone a Senior Member without Grade. You accept a position that has a rank tied to it then you wear that grade but as soon as your term is over back to SM.

Personally I think all CAP Senior Members should be Warrant Officers...
 
Senior Member Without Grade = CAP WO Candidate
Level 1 complete = CAP WO-1
Level 2 complete = CAP CWO-2
Level 3 complete = CAP CWO-3
Level 4 complete = CAP CWO-4
Level 5 complete = CAP CWO-5

No NCO ranks and all Officer Ranks become temporary assignment so while you are the Squadron Commander you wear Captain's Bars, when your tour of duty is over, back to Warrant Officer you go.

I can maybe see a way that successful CAP members could keep their appointed rank as a reward for a job well done and I can also see a grandfather clause for all current CAP member with rank, so not to strip anyone of rank they earned.

It would solve the perceived problem of Rank in CAP.

I would also recommend that we make the Rank Insignia a different color than the USAF Warrant Officer Insignia, Maybe make the the little squares Grey instead of Sky Blue.