Greetings,

Now this is a very informal thing but I am just looking for other opinions on what my course of action should/could be for this. OR what may also be possible.

I was accepted to Desert Eagle as a student (glider). Got scholarship and everything, am confirmed. I was chosen as Cadre at AKWG encampment. Problem: The cadre training days eats into the last three (basically two) days of the Flight academy. Both of these are extremely important to me as one is flying and the other giving me extremely good leadership experience which is what I am looking for.

Now I know in order to Solo (which is my goal) I obviously have to be at the flight academy the whole time. I also know how important Cadre training days are and wouldnt want to miss those.

Now I have a few choices. Go to the flight academy then go to staff the encampment on the days I'm supposed to arrive (leaving the flight academy about two days early). Not solo, but possibly get Pre-Solo (So I was told). I could also stay as long as possible then leave end of the day before the last day of the flight academy to get the most flight completed. Another option is doing somewhat of a request to have all my needed flights done early if possible so I could leave early from the academy (but this I believe is not possible).

One last thing. I was told it may be possible if I had to leave early before doing all my needed flights I could try to schedule with someone to get those last flights done and get my solo when I return. (or its was something like that)

So yeah. Obviously at the last resort I would chose between the two and only do one, but I am looking on opinions on the best course of action. (And not just "do one and drop the other")

It would be more accurate to say that you have NO choices. Oh, the choices are there - they are just not yours to make.

I had a similar problem in 1970. Yes, back when we had steam driven airplanes and encampments lasted six months. (Or so it seemed) and “Cadet Flying Encampment” overlapped Encampment.

If I was in charge of your encampment, I doubt that I could or would use you if you showed up late, missing any training up front. Likewise, if I was in charge of your flight program, I doubt that I’d want to take on a special case who needed multiple schedule adjustments and borderline program modifications. There is no way to simply load your flight program up front in hopes of getting you out early. That isn’t the objective - the objective is to get you flying according to a program which will constantly review your progress and which may require you to adjust to specific instructor availability.

It seems that the flight program is where you want to make the adjustments. If so, talk to the school director and lay it all out so that their choice (not yours; you are only bringing considerations and options) can be implemented. But, even though you do not  want to hear “just drop one do the other,” be prepared to hear that very thing. Because it’s the Civil Air Patrol and not the “Picy3 Personalized Cadet Show.” If you are told to pick one, choose wisely, smile, salute and execute. 


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Greetings,

Now this is a very informal thing but I am just looking for other opinions on what my course of action should/could be for this. OR what may also be possible.

I was accepted to Desert Eagle as a student (glider). Got scholarship and everything, am confirmed. I was chosen as Cadre at AKWG encampment. Problem: The cadre training days eats into the last three (basically two) days of the Flight academy. Both of these are extremely important to me as one is flying and the other giving me extremely good leadership experience which is what I am looking for.

Now I know in order to Solo (which is my goal) I obviously have to be at the flight academy the whole time. I also know how important Cadre training days are and wouldnt want to miss those.

Now I have a few choices. Go to the flight academy then go to staff the encampment on the days I'm supposed to arrive (leaving the flight academy about two days early). Not solo, but possibly get Pre-Solo (So I was told). I could also stay as long as possible then leave end of the day before the last day of the flight academy to get the most flight completed. Another option is doing somewhat of a request to have all my needed flights done early if possible so I could leave early from the academy (but this I believe is not possible).

One last thing. I was told it may be possible if I had to leave early before doing all my needed flights I could try to schedule with someone to get those last flights done and get my solo when I return. (or its was something like that)

So yeah. Obviously at the last resort I would chose between the two and only do one, but I am looking on opinions on the best course of action. (And not just "do one and drop the other")

Anyone heard anything?  This is getting kinda silly, at least post an update or a quick email.

Still nothing here. 

Anyone heard anything?

Still nothing here, and nothing on the cap website...

This is getting kinda silly, at least post an update or a quick email.

+1 : If someone from NHQ is reading this, please keep us somewhat informed.

^ all these are a great start, and will get you an idea how CAP ES works. 

I would also suggest getting FAM/Prepped for UDF as that is only a few tasks and then you are mission-ready.

The reality though, is that if your unit is so devoid of information that you have to ask here about GT, then
you aren't likely going to to be able to get it done locally by yourself, in which case NESA is a good option.

They might still be accepting GSAR students, in which case yo can knock it out in about a week.
http://nesa.cap.gov/

The local problem is that even with guidance there are things that need to be approved by your CC and
he has to know how in order to do that.

You could also seek out participation with other units more active in ES.

We are definitely still accepting applications for NESA GSAR, although apps should be in pretty soon.

Thank you to everyone for the replies.

You all make great points and we will revisit our form.  We developed the form to help our cadets who don't have much experience in volunteering to record the necessary information.  I will delete the attachment, as it doesn't meet branding guidelines.  Thanks all for your help.

^ all these are a great start, and will get you an idea how CAP ES works. 

I would also suggest getting FAM/Prepped for UDF as that is only a few tasks and then you are mission-ready.

The reality though, is that if your unit is so devoid of information that you have to ask here about GT, then
you aren't likely going to to be able to get it done locally by yourself, in which case NESA is a good option.

They might still be accepting GSAR students, in which case you can knock it out in about a week.
http://nesa.cap.gov/

The local problem is that even with guidance there are things that need to be approved by your CC and
he has to know how in order to do that.

You could also seek out participation with other units more active in ES.

There are several things you can do on your own to get started:

Complete GES. This is step 1!

Complete CAPT 117, part 1
Get your First Aid certification, enter it into your Operations Qualifications records at https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.OPSQuals.Web/EmergencyServices/SQTR.aspx
Complete IS 100 and 700 from https://training.fema.gov/is/crslist.aspx, enter your certificates into your Operations Qualifications records at https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.OPSQuals.Web/EmergencyServices/SQTR.aspx

Ask your Communications Officer about condicting an ICUT course, or if one is available at another unit.

Anyone heard anything?  This is getting kinda silly, at least post an update or a quick email.