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 on: September 22, 2018, 07:52:49 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by MacGruff
The lack of mentors is really the biggest bugaboo out there - and that goes for pilots, as much as for any other aspect of CAP for Senior Members. Squadron Commanders are required - REQUIRED - to appoint a mentor for every new SM that joins their squadrons. My guess is that less than 5% do and about that same amount even know that they are responsible for doing so.

For pilots, it seems to be about the same. Unless they happen to join a squadron that has other pilots already enrolled in it who help them, they have no one who will tell them that they first have to qualify as Air Crew and work their way "up" the system.

I will not get in to the debate of whether it's easier to get airtime in the winter or the summer as I am in an area where the nearest airplane is about a two hour drive away for most of the folks who join the 6 squadrons near me ... so that's another obstacle...

I believe though, that if we at least had a corps of mentors who worked with the new members, that things would radically improve. I do so in my unit and preach it within my wing.

 22 
 on: September 22, 2018, 07:04:31 PM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by Picy3
Greetings,

I was just wondering (for those who have been selected as Cadet Cadre in the past) how the process goes after submitting a Resume/Cover letter to the encampment people? I have signed up for winter encampment Cadre position(s) and was just wondering how I could better prepare myself or if I could get some info on what I could be asked or just how it will go from here. I'm normally not that good with interviews so ways I could better prepare myself would be greatly appreciated (its mainly the asking of questions I had not thought of that gets me stuck).

Thanks,

 23 
 on: September 22, 2018, 06:32:27 PM 
Started by whatevah - Last post by Nick
Heh, it was Safari on iPhone pasted into Tapatalk. It was black in the mobile Safari and is that way on Chrome too. I havenít seen it in orange.

 24 
 on: September 22, 2018, 04:06:25 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by NIN
Also Summer can be the hardest time to get spun up in most Wings as aircraft are gone at encampments, NCSAs, etc.

However, winter is a terrible time to get spun up, because: weather.

Pick your poison. I'd rather try to get a pilot spun up in the summer flying months, scheduled around a week of encampment O-flights or a Flight Academy than weeks of "we're not sure we can fly" in November or February.


 25 
 on: September 22, 2018, 01:08:09 PM 
Started by etodd - Last post by Eclipse
It's required this member have an assigned mentor - that person should be working with the member to guide him through the process.


I'll look into that. Its not being done here.

This is the root cause of the issue.

 26 
 on: September 22, 2018, 11:57:06 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by etodd
It's required this member have an assigned mentor - that person should be working with the member to guide him through the process.


I'll look into that. Its not being done here.

When I joined, I was highly motivated to just "get it done" and bugged the CFIs to make it happen. Within 6 months of joining I completed MS, MO, AP, and MP.  I didn't wait for SAREX time. Did some of it with C-12 flights so I wouldn't have to wait on free flights at SAREXs.

 27 
 on: September 22, 2018, 10:27:19 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by Eclipse
It's required this member have an assigned mentor - that person should be working with the member to guide him through the process.

Two months is barely enough time to get the membership package processed, do Level 1, get a uniform, and acclimate to whatís going on around you. Two months sounds like an excellent time to start MS, not have it done.

Also this ^^.

Also Summer can be the hardest time to get spun up in most Wings as aircraft are gone at encampments, NCSAs, etc.

It's not unheard of to be able to get a Form 5 done in the first couple of months, but that usually requires some serendipity and
a lot of personal initiative.

 28 
 on: September 22, 2018, 10:25:49 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by Spaceman3750
Two months is barely enough time to get the membership package processed, do Level 1, get a uniform, and acclimate to whatís going on around you. Two months sounds like an excellent time to start MS, not have it done.

Not to excuse a lack of mentorship, but as a commander I benefit greatly from a personable instructor/check pilot who takes new air-focused members and mentors them. Nothing is stopping you from doing that yourself and it will free up the commanderís focus for the hundred other spinning plates he is responsible.

Stop complaining and get to work.


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 29 
 on: September 22, 2018, 08:54:33 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by Hawk200
I had the benefit of having been in CAP for a long time, so I know how it works.
This is why the SM program needs to adopt a form of the CP "Wingman" concept. I had a phenomenal mentor so in my first year I was able to get a tone of work done - GES, Level I and II, two tech badges plus AC wings. I have one more FEMA course and the balance of 18 months TIG to get to Level III and railroad tracks.

Absent that mentor I would be floundering towards near nothing.
In both the military, and a few companies I've worked at, we had what we simply called a "sponsor." That person was the one that takes you around the various offices that you need to visit, helps you with paperwork.

Most of the places had a "sponsor package," kind of an inprocessing checklist. As the "newbie," you would receive one, then your "sponsor" would sit down with you, tell you where all the places were that you needed to visit, and then would take you to all those places.

Sounds like we could stand to get such a program together for CAP. No telling how many people we lose because things aren't getting done. Retention is just as important as recruiting.

 30 
 on: September 22, 2018, 08:29:35 AM 
Started by etodd - Last post by OldGuy
I had the benefit of having been in CAP for a long time, so I know how it works.
This is why the SM program needs to adopt a form of the CP "Wingman" concept. I had a phenomenal mentor so in my first year I was able to get a tone of work done - GES, Level I and II, two tech badges plus AC wings. I have one more FEMA course and the balance of 18 months TIG to get to Level III and railroad tracks.

Absent that mentor I would be floundering towards near nothing.

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