CAP Talk

Quote from: Fubar on February 17, 2020, 08:12:23 pmThe membership has voted through what they wear and the polo shirt has won by a landslide.

Maybe in your AOR, but that's not even remotely true nationally.

Quote from: CAP9907 on February 17, 2020, 07:27:53 pmI think that many Seniors have adopted this path by default. I do own the minimum SM 'uniform' that's required, but wear it maybe once a year. Polo works for my day to day activities. YMMV of course.
~9907

All the uniform drama is so silly that I too used to think we should just do away with them, but I've come to the same conclusion you have. The membership has voted through what they wear and the polo shirt has won by a landslide.

It used to be argued that the polo wearing folks aren't doing anything to detract from the missions being completed, just leave them alone. Now, the inverse can be said.

ES Training.

Hey, my squadron is planning on having a bivouac, but all I know about bivouacs is camping.
What else happens a a bivouac?

Quote from: bd5av8r on February 17, 2020, 06:06:53 pmSimple: Eliminate rank, put people in Polos and grey slacks.

I think that many Seniors have adopted this path by default. I do own the minimum SM 'uniform' that's required, but wear it maybe once a year. Polo works for my day to day activities. YMMV of course.

~9907

We have a cadet officer in our squadron with this problem. She folded the bottom over (away from the CAP initials) and wears it that way. Does it look good? No. Does it work? Yes. I think the idea to modify both the top and bottom of the epaulettes is better. She is close to cadet major and I will suggest that to her when she is promoted.

Quote from: Terry W. on February 17, 2020, 12:07:33 pmI just ordered a set of shoulder boards for a FO and they are unisex. I am not aware of any shoulder boards being unisex.

Shoulder boards and the cloth gizmos that slide onto the shirt/coat epaulets are very different. I think the discussion here is the latter, in the cadet variety, which differ from what SMs wear.

Quote from: bd5av8r on February 17, 2020, 06:06:53 pmSimple: Eliminate rank, put people in Polos and grey slacks.

Now everyone is equal and won't have authority and rank to get all wound up over. Let alone uniforms. lol

That may even "cure" some of the toxic leadership issues I see talked about from time to time.

The simple solution for those that want to do away with rank is to join the Scouts or CERT or both. If you want to further divest CAP away from the USAF, perhaps the solution for those people is to join an org that already is divested.

There are ways of making the NCO and officer program work together and complementary. The current method is IMO poorly executed, but that is no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

No.

As far as I am aware, IG is one of those but SE is not.

Quote from: 3CharlieLima on February 17, 2020, 05:39:36 pmIs the Wing Safety Officer a solitary position - i.e. you can hold only that position and nothing else, such as squadron or group commander?


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Simple: Eliminate rank, put people in Polos and grey slacks.

Now everyone is equal and won't have authority and rank to get all wound up over. Let alone uniforms. lol

That may even "cure" some of the toxic leadership issues I see talked about from time to time.