future CAP OCP uniform: blue name tapes w/ camo pattern rank?

Started by supertigerCH, March 22, 2024, 01:02:44 AM

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HandsomeWalt_USMC

Quote from: SierraOneThree on August 29, 2024, 01:14:34 AMI'll be honest with you all, the reason for the new insignia is moot because they're likely on the way. That being said, and as someone who is REALLY picky about uniforms, they're not bad at all. They're just the Goretex ranks made square, at least in their current draft.

That said, as far as Space Force pushing back on CAP ranks, that is.....not what was told to us when we were given the task to create the insignia.

Duly noted and it could be a LOT worse. Thanks for the gouge!
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tom22

I found a website that is selling the Duty Identifier patch for CAP

https://www.reaperpatches.com/products/aux-duty-identifier-patch-blue-backing

I tried to put a picture of it on here, but was unsuccessful -sorry


tom22

I got it as an attachment, I can't figure out how to post the picture in the message box though

SierraOneThree

Quote from: tom22 on August 29, 2024, 10:18:22 PMI found a website that is selling the Duty Identifier patch for CAP

https://www.reaperpatches.com/products/aux-duty-identifier-patch-blue-backing

I tried to put a picture of it on here, but was unsuccessful -sorry

lol added today

ok who was it?

NIN

Quote from: SierraOneThree on August 30, 2024, 12:56:13 AMlol added today

ok who was it?

Wasn't me. :)  (But my shipping notification says next Thursday...)
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HandsomeWalt_USMC

Their command patch is way nicer than VG too. Ordered...
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SierraOneThree

Quote from: NIN on August 30, 2024, 01:08:38 PM
Quote from: SierraOneThree on August 30, 2024, 12:56:13 AMlol added today

ok who was it?

Wasn't me. :)  (But my shipping notification says next Thursday...)

We'll see, Reaper takes a lot of time if they have to manufacture the patches.

Shuman 14

Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police, US Army Reserve

and

Lieutenant Colonel, Civil Air Patrol

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Shuman 14

Quote from: SierraOneThree on August 29, 2024, 01:14:34 AMI'll be honest with you all, the reason for the new insignia is moot because they're likely on the way. That being said, and as someone who is REALLY picky about uniforms, they're not bad at all. They're just the Goretex ranks made square, at least in their current draft.

That said, as far as Space Force pushing back on CAP ranks, that is.....not what was told to us when we were given the task to create the insignia.

So basically this:



on the center chest rank patch, correct?

Which is absolutely acceptable in order to wear the OCP uniform.

Silly question, I know Flight Officers are few and far between but why is it Vanguard only has sewn on Flight Officer Rank? No Pin-Ons for caps, no Velcro and no Gortex slides. They are supposed to be our sole supplier, yet they never have Flight Officer stuff for the few that need it.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police, US Army Reserve

and

Lieutenant Colonel, Civil Air Patrol

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

HandsomeWalt_USMC

My guess is economy of scale. Easy enough to stitch a sew on rank onto a blank slide or cap. The one FO I had in my squadron was an FO for less than a year and I don't think he ever wore a uniform other than a polo in that time.
HANDSOME SENDS

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Fubar

Quote from: HandsomeWalt_USMC on August 30, 2024, 09:03:31 PMMy guess is economy of scale. Easy enough to stitch a sew on rank onto a blank slide or cap. The one FO I had in my squadron was an FO for less than a year and I don't think he ever wore a uniform other than a polo in that time.

That's the whole point of the contract with Vanguard. For exclusivity and higher prices, they are supposed to produce all of our insignia, even the less popular ones.

HandsomeWalt_USMC

Point taken. I guess it might be a situation like PopCopy. (For any Chappelle fans out there)
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PHall

Quote from: Fubar on August 31, 2024, 02:07:42 AM
Quote from: HandsomeWalt_USMC on August 30, 2024, 09:03:31 PMMy guess is economy of scale. Easy enough to stitch a sew on rank onto a blank slide or cap. The one FO I had in my squadron was an FO for less than a year and I don't think he ever wore a uniform other than a polo in that time.

That's the whole point of the contract with Vanguard. For exclusivity and higher prices, they are supposed to produce all of our insignia, even the less popular ones.


It's not Vanguards fault if CAP declines to enforce their contract.

Fubar

Quote from: PHall on August 31, 2024, 02:30:59 PMIt's not Vanguards fault if CAP declines to enforce their contract.

Quite true. NHQ seems to worry about upsetting Vanguard, the reverse of most vendor/client relationships.

jeders

Quote from: Shuman 14 on August 30, 2024, 06:10:12 PMSilly question, I know Flight Officers are few and far between but why is it Vanguard only has sewn on Flight Officer Rank? No Pin-Ons for caps, no Velcro and no Gortex slides. They are supposed to be our sole supplier, yet they never have Flight Officer stuff for the few that need it.

Silly answer, have you called them to see if they have them in stock? There are a number of CAP items that they carry but don't list on their website because they only sell 1 a year, or less, such as the Cadet COP ribbon.
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Shuman 14

Quote from: SierraOneThree on August 30, 2024, 03:51:24 PMWe'll see, Reaper takes a lot of time if they have to manufacture the patches.

You were right about that; I ordered mine on 30AUG2024 and they arrived Saturday (19OCT2024).

That being said, really high-quality patch, looks like they last a VERY long time.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police, US Army Reserve

and

Lieutenant Colonel, Civil Air Patrol

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

Shuman 14

Ready to Rock, when the Regulation drops!  8)

CAP OCP.pdf
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police, US Army Reserve

and

Lieutenant Colonel, Civil Air Patrol

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

Stonewall

Quote from: Shuman 14 on October 23, 2024, 12:06:12 AMReady to Rock, when the Regulation drops!  8)

CAP OCP.pdf

I've seen a number of people with theirs set up and ready to go.  Will post pics when I'm back at my computer.
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Stonewall

These are a few setups from people who have been waiting for the official notification. Of course, everyone really does understand the risks with doing this, there will likely be changes, like the rank tab for Seniors, will there be a "CAP" above the rank or not?

Either way, it's fun and obviously many are excited, and rightfully so.

















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Shuman 14

Quote from: Stonewall on October 23, 2024, 03:59:59 PMThese are a few setups from people who have been waiting for the official notification. Of course, everyone really does understand the risks with doing this, there will likely be changes, like the rank tab for Seniors, will there be a "CAP" above the rank or not?

Either way, it's fun and obviously many are excited, and rightfully so.

Very cool.

So my question is, based on the pictures you posted, do I have my Wing Patch in the wrong Place?

As I read DAFI36-2903 29 FEBRUARY 2024, this is the placement of Patches, from top to bottom:

Right Sleeve
The U.S. Flag Patch
Organizational Unit of Assignment Patch (Squadron Patch?)

Left Sleeve
Career Field Identifier Patch (AUX Patch)
Graduated Commander's Badge Patch (if authorized)
Joint Qualification Tabs (i.e. Special Forces, Ranger, Sapper, Sniper, Etc., if authorized)
Higher Headquarters Patch (Wing Patch?)

So, is the CAP Command Patch the Higher Headquarters Patch, and the Wing Patch is the Organizational Unit of Assignment Patch?

OR

Is the Wing Patch the Higher Headquarters Patch and the Squadron Patch the Organizational Unit of Assignment Patch?

I made the best guess that the Wing patch is the Higher Headquarters, but after seeing your posted pictures, I'm not sure.  ???
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police, US Army Reserve

and

Lieutenant Colonel, Civil Air Patrol

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present