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NIN
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« on: May 17, 2019, 05:49:36 PM »

Its been ... awhile ... since I last went to an ES mission.

My spiffy new 101 card is handily marked "*MSA".  Headed to a mission base tonight for an overnight and all day mission tomorrow.

What things in the modern OPSQUAL/TRAINEX/SAREX/ICS age should I be sure not to forget?
(I already have "sleeping bag, et al" on my list there. You can be sure I'll be in the right uniform with the necessary accouterments)

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 06:15:44 PM »

Laptop, power strip, extension cord, and WiFi hotspot if you have one.

Also snacks and a hard-sided water bottle are nice to have.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 06:20:49 PM »

Laptop, power strip, extension cord, and WiFi hotspot if you have one.

Also snacks and a hard-sided water bottle are nice to have.

Check, [oops, I'll grab one], check, check. :)

Check and check on the last two as well.  And hard-sided coffee cup.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 06:24:00 PM »

I'd bring printouts of the checklist for the next level for any specialty track you are attempting.

A multi-tool like a Leatherman may already be on your list.

Your favorite state atlas; there tends to be a crowd around the official ones used in briefings etc., having your own makes it easier to follow along.

If you are at all proficient with maps, bring your favorite paper and electronic method for converting among the different coordinate choices (degrees-minutes-seconds, degrees-minutes where minutes have decimal point, UTM, etc.)

Binoculars, if going into field and you're confident you can handle the extra weight.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 06:28:52 PM »


... his state atlas is what, like one page?

 ;D


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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 06:32:05 PM »


... his state atlas is what, like one page?

The Gazetter is ... good sized. :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 06:40:05 PM »

I'd bring printouts of the checklist for the next level for any specialty track you are attempting.

A multi-tool like a Leatherman may already be on your list.

Your favorite state atlas; there tends to be a crowd around the official ones used in briefings etc., having your own makes it easier to follow along.

If you are at all proficient with maps, bring your favorite paper and electronic method for converting among the different coordinate choices (degrees-minutes-seconds, degrees-minutes where minutes have decimal point, UTM, etc.)

Binoculars, if going into field and you're confident you can handle the extra weight.

Thanks for the reminder about the checklists. Printing those now.  Got my leatherman, grabbing my other one for my belt. Atlas is secured.

I am map proficient, but I'm going to let someone else show me the "current" ropes on that.

I have rangfinder and gyro stabilzed binos. :) Just in case I some how accidentally get fully signed off as an MS trainee. (The colonel's knees are getting too old for the ground pounder routine... :) )

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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 06:56:24 PM »


... his state atlas is what, like one page?

 ;D


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I'm thinking of something like a DeLORME atlas. The one for Vermont & New Hampshire has 57  pages of maps. Good amount of detail for planning a drive to a trail head or crash site, marginal for hiking.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2019, 07:05:19 PM »

SQTR books and signoff sheets
50 extra ICS-214 forms
50 extra ICS-213 forms
10 extra ICS-205 forms
1 bag with 100 pens
1 battery powered mission clock with large LED face

A spare copy of your 101 card, F160,F161

TENS on a CD or USB drive
24 hour pack
72 hour pack

Portable label printer with weatherproof labels

Spare safety glasses and earplugs

Customize the below lists for your needs:
https://emilms.fema.gov/IS144/assets/TERT_Lesson_3_05_personal_preparation_worksheet.pdf
https://emilms.fema.gov/IS144/assets/TERT_Lesson_3_09_physical_preparation_worksheet.pdf

Ask these mobilization questions:
Mission POC
Mission Number
Type of Event
Reporting Location (Check-in)
Reporting Date/Time
Required Equipment
Length of Operations
Safety Issues

Relay to them:
Your Mode of Transportation
Your Route and ETA

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Spare USB cables to charge usb2,usb3, and lightning connector phones

Spare battery pack to charge them with in the 20,000mah range

1 box of 1 gallon ziplock bags
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2019, 07:22:36 PM »

What, specifically, are you intending to actually do?

If you're going to be an MSA, respiration and gravitational attraction in proper proportion is all you need,
anything else will be in the hands of the assigned party of record, and you'll get the idea from what they do.

I have no idea why an MSA would need a sleeping bag.

Bear in mind, you can learn whatever is offered, even get tasked on various things you're pre-req qual'ed on,
but you can't be signed in as anything but what you are FAM/Prep/CC Approved for.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2019, 07:25:13 PM »

TENS on a CD or USB drive

I know I'll be sorry, but this is what now?



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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2019, 07:30:18 PM »

He needs the sleeping bag as he stated he will stay overnight in the mission base, that is, the night before the actual mission. He could have gone to a motel, then he would not need the sleeping bag. But he is not.

But he stated he is going for MSA(T). Or maybe I read too much. If so he does not need any binos! Unless he gets bored as an MSA and decides to get on an MS sortie...


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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2019, 07:35:55 PM »

He needs the sleeping bag as he stated he will stay overnight in the mission base, that is, the night before the actual mission. He could have gone to a motel, then he would not need the sleeping bag. But he is not.

But he stated he is going for MSA(T). Or maybe I read too much. If so he does not need any binos! Unless he gets bored as an MSA and decides to get on an MS sortie...

Yeah, in theory, "roughing it" for us field grade guys is a Holiday Inn with no restaurant.

But in practice, I'm going to be billeting where the rest of the troops are billeted next to the mission base in my GP tiny.

Gotta show them how its done. Its just been awhile since I've done it!
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2019, 07:39:37 PM »

SQTR books and signoff sheets
50 extra ICS-214 forms
50 extra ICS-213 forms
10 extra ICS-205 forms
1 bag with 100 pens
1 battery powered mission clock with large LED face

Our command post has most of that, but I'll be sure to bring my personal sign offs.

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A spare copy of your 101 card, F160,F161

I always forget the 160 & 161.  Good catch.

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TENS on a CD or USB drive
24 hour pack
72 hour pack

I have both 24 & 72 hr for mission base staff.

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Portable label printer with weatherproof labels

Command post has that

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Spare safety glasses and earplugs

I have spare eyeglasses (ballistically tolerant, even) and I'll remember to throw my earplugs into my helmet bag.

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Customize the below lists for your needs:
https://emilms.fema.gov/IS144/assets/TERT_Lesson_3_05_personal_preparation_worksheet.pdf
https://emilms.fema.gov/IS144/assets/TERT_Lesson_3_09_physical_preparation_worksheet.pdf

Ask these mobilization questions:
Mission POC
Mission Number
Type of Event
Reporting Location (Check-in)
Reporting Date/Time
Required Equipment
Length of Operations
Safety Issues

Relay to them:
Your Mode of Transportation
Your Route and ETA

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Spare USB cables to charge usb2,usb3, and lightning connector phones

Spare battery pack to charge them with in the 20,000mah range

1 box of 1 gallon ziplock bags

Some of this I already have, I'll play it by ear on the forms.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2019, 08:04:14 PM »

TENS on a CD or USB drive

I know I'll be sorry, but this is what now?
When your OS crashes, and you want a government compliant OS that can handle CAC/PIV cards:

https://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm

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Trusted End Node Security
Trusted End Node Security (TENS™) creates a secure end node from trusted media on almost any Intel-based computer (PC or Mac). TENS™ boots a thin Linux operating system from removable media without mounting a local hard drive. Administrator privileges are not required; nothing is installed. TENS™ turns an untrusted system (such as a home computer) into a trusted network client. No trace of work activity or malware can be written to the local computer. Simply plug in your USB smart card reader to access CAC and PIV-restricted US government websites.

TENS™ differs from traditional operating systems in that it isn't continually patched. TENS™ is designed to run from read-only media and without any persistent storage. Any malware that might infect a computer can only run within that session. A user can improve security by rebooting between sessions, or when about to undertake a sensitive transaction. For example, boot TENS™ immediately before performing any online banking transactions. TENS™ should also be rebooted immediately after visiting any risky websites, or when the user has reason to suspect malware might have been loaded. In any event, rebooting when idle is an effective strategy to ensure a clean computing session.

TENS™ is updated on a regular basis. Be sure to update to the latest version to have the latest protection and most recent drivers.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2019, 08:25:16 PM »

^ Not  CAP "thing" and wholly unnecessary for CAP ES operations.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2019, 08:27:20 PM »

As to the other stuff, there no such thing as 24/72 hour gear for base staff,
ES does not need to be painful, uncomfortable, or "roughing it" (see FEMA / ARC / Salvation Army, any professional EMA operations for guidance).
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2019, 08:45:27 PM »

^ Not  CAP "thing" and wholly unnecessary for CAP ES operations.

Not a thing for you, but having a near instant recovery after a hard drive crash that happens to have bells and whistles for any USAF personnel visiting sure should be a CAP "thing."
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2019, 09:34:47 PM »


... his state atlas is what, like one page?

 ;D


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I'm thinking of something like a DeLORME atlas. The one for Vermont & New Hampshire has 57  pages of maps. Good amount of detail for planning a drive to a trail head or crash site, marginal for hiking.

Delorme used to have the atlases (Gazeteer) on disk.
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2019, 11:28:01 PM »

NIN:

kidding about the size of your state aside, this is a good question (albeit liable to degenerate into "gear nerd fights"). I would suggest three things more bearing in mind your personal training state/goals:

1. Remember to take any personal meds, including your choice for headaches.


2. Pattern rightly mentioned checklists/books... to amplify, take both your mission staff TASK GUIDE, as well as your mission staff REFERENCE TEXT:
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/Mission_Base_Staff_Task_Guide_D05D81F929EB2.pdf
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52f294c6e4b0bede38b4d35c/t/5a88cc53c83025f59a757e23/1518914784873/Mission+Base+Staff+Reference+Text+-+May+2003.pdf


3. I'm betting that you haven't done ICUT; if you'll be breaking into supporting Comm (and its required for MSA), take a laptop to spend some time working through the course during slack time. ICUT is now hosted on the new Axis LMS at: 
https://elearning.capnhq.gov/lms/_portal/user/index.php


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