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SarDragon
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« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2019, 05:34:38 AM »

From CAPR 39-2:
Retired members may reapply for active membership with the approval of the National Commander.
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« Reply #61 on: January 16, 2019, 05:35:09 AM »

I retired about 10 years ago, when I tried to rejoin, I was told that I needed my Wing Commander's permission to rejoin.

Actually you need the National CC's approval.
CAPR 39-2, Page 20
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R039_002_A74FDA9552C2D.pdf
"4.3.2. Return to Active Status. Retired members may reapply for active membership with the
approval of the National Commander.
The grade upon rejoining as an active member is the same
grade held while in retirement status. Complete CAPF 12 and fingerprint card (FD Form 258).
The application will be annotated across the top "RETIRED MEMBER RETURNING TO ACTIVE
STATUS”. Upon approval by the unit commander, the application and fingerprint card are
submitted, along with ACTIVE member dues, to National Headquarters/DPM. National
Headquarters will obtain the National Commander’s approval prior to processing. In order to
reinstate the member at the last grade held as an active member, a copy of the CAPF 2A placing
the member in retired status (or a copy of the retirement certificate) will be attached to the CAPF
12 and forwarded to National Headquarters"


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« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2019, 06:28:52 AM »

From CAPR 39-2
4.3.2. Return to Active Status.  Retired members may reapply for active membership with the approval of the National Commander.  The grade upon rejoining as an active member is the same grade held while in retirement status.  Complete CAPF 12 and fingerprint card (FD Form 258).  The application will be annotated across the top "RETIRED MEMBER RETURNING TO ACTIVE STATUS”.  Upon approval by the unit commander, the application and fingerprint card are submitted, along with ACTIVE member dues, to National Headquarters/DPM.  National Headquarters will obtain the National Commander’s approval prior to processing. 
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« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2019, 10:06:40 PM »

From CAPR 39-2
4.3.2. Return to Active Status.  Retired members may reapply for active membership with the approval of the National Commander.  The grade upon rejoining as an active member is the same grade held while in retirement status.  Complete CAPF 12 and fingerprint card (FD Form 258).  The application will be annotated across the top "RETIRED MEMBER RETURNING TO ACTIVE STATUS”.  Upon approval by the unit commander, the application and fingerprint card are submitted, along with ACTIVE member dues, to National Headquarters/DPM.  National Headquarters will obtain the National Commander’s approval prior to processing.

And...more nonsense is revealed.

The applicant for reinstatement must supply proof of retirement in order for CAP to believe that s/he is retired.

Doesn’t NHQ already know that?


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« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2019, 10:58:10 PM »

From CAPR 39-2
4.3.2. Return to Active Status.  Retired members may reapply for active membership with the approval of the National Commander.  The grade upon rejoining as an active member is the same grade held while in retirement status.  Complete CAPF 12 and fingerprint card (FD Form 258).  The application will be annotated across the top "RETIRED MEMBER RETURNING TO ACTIVE STATUS”.  Upon approval by the unit commander, the application and fingerprint card are submitted, along with ACTIVE member dues, to National Headquarters/DPM.  National Headquarters will obtain the National Commander’s approval prior to processing.

And...more nonsense is revealed.

The applicant for reinstatement must supply proof of retirement in order for CAP to believe that s/he is retired.

Doesn’t NHQ already know that?


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For members who have retired since the advent of electronic records, yes, they have that.

It is entirely possible however that someone could return to active status who retired prior to that level of record-keeping. In that case, chances are no record exists of that member's grade at retirement.

BTW, you can thank General Carr for signing off on my return. Muuhahaha! :)
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« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2019, 07:18:30 PM »

Well...it is “official”.  I received the signed Form 2A, a letter from Gen Smith, and a “suitable for framing” Certificate of Retirement in this morning’s mail. 
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« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2019, 07:50:38 PM »

Well...it is “official”.  I received the signed Form 2A, a letter from Gen Smith, and a “suitable for framing” Certificate of Retirement in this morning’s mail.

It had your name on it, right?

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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2019, 12:18:30 AM »

That it did and spelled correctly :)
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« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2019, 04:03:00 PM »

Congrats Chappie, glad everything worked out well for you. Hope you'll continue to hang out on CapTalk we can all benefit from your wit and wisdom. Simplex, out!
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« Reply #69 on: January 25, 2019, 06:00:44 PM »

From CAPR 39-2
4.3.2. Return to Active Status.  Retired members may reapply for active membership with the approval of the National Commander.  The grade upon rejoining as an active member is the same grade held while in retirement status.  Complete CAPF 12 and fingerprint card (FD Form 258).  The application will be annotated across the top "RETIRED MEMBER RETURNING TO ACTIVE STATUS”.  Upon approval by the unit commander, the application and fingerprint card are submitted, along with ACTIVE member dues, to National Headquarters/DPM.  National Headquarters will obtain the National Commander’s approval prior to processing.

And...more nonsense is revealed.

The applicant for reinstatement must supply proof of retirement in order for CAP to believe that s/he is retired.

Doesn’t NHQ already know that?


I think the bigger question is:
"Why does this need National Commander approval?"

The National Commander doesn't approve applications at the squadron level... I mean, this seems like administrative/bureaucratic horse hockey.
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