cap sword

[CLC096]

Were can you get a cap sword

[Cool Mace]

Vanguard used to sell them.  I'm not sure if they still do or not.

If you can't find any on their site, try emailing them to see if they have any.

[a2capt]

Oh come now, already looking for a sword to fall on? It's not -that- bad. Come on.

[Eclipse]

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To my understanding the one pictured was a 1-off to gauge interest, which, thankfully there was little to none.

We don't carry / need swords in CAP.

Also this: http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/531/kw/sword
CHAPTER 3 – CIVIL AIR PATROL HONOR GUARD UNIFORM
3-1. General. This chapter prescribes the standardized uniform worn by Civil Air Patrol Honor Guards. This uniform is approved for wear during Honor Guard duties and performances only. National Cadet Competition Drill Teams, Color Guards or other CAP special teams will not wear this uniform. The Honor Guard Uniform consists of the service dress uniform coat with epaulets and slacks/trousers, male service cap with cadet officer cap device, white ascot with Honor Guard patch, metallic silver shoulder cord, white pistol belt, white gloves, and a brown non-operating parade rifle with white leather sling. Either the old or new style of service dress may be worn; however, all members of an Honor Guard should be in the same style. Bayonets, swords, or sabers will not be used under any circumstances. This uniform is authorized for year-round wear. The Colors Element flag bearers will wear white flag slings instead of white pistol belts. The guards will wear pistol belts. See Table 3-1 for specific uniform requirements.

[ZigZag911]

Since it's far too long to use as a letter opener, the only possible purpose for it is as a display item...one which has nothing to do with CAP!

I heard about a squadron that purchased one some years ago (pre-Vanguard, I think...was it a Bookstore item???)...anyway, the end result were inquiries from wing about the unit's finances(such as, why are you buying  this useless piece of junk?!?), leading to the squadron commander's replacement.

[CLC096]

How much do you think thw sword woll cost

[Pylon]

It wasn't a Civil Air Patrol sword.  It was an Air Force sword that some vendor had etched "Civil Air Patrol" and a Cessna image onto the blade.   Civil Air Patrol does not have its own sword, because it is not needed for anything, ever.  An Air Force sword, intended for Air Force personnel (not CAP), costs between $300-$400 depending on the source and not adding in the cost of necessary accoutrements like a proper sword belt. 

There is also nothing in the CAP uniform manual that gives any possibly construed permission that a sword of any variety is remotely permissible for wear with any CAP uniform.

[lordmonar]

It wasn't a Civil Air Patrol sword.  It was an Air Force sword that some vendor had etched "Civil Air Patrol" and a Cessna image onto the blade.   Civil Air Patrol does not have its own sword, because it is not needed for anything, ever.  An Air Force sword, intended for Air Force personnel (not CAP), costs between $300-$400 depending on the source and not adding in the cost of necessary accoutrements like a proper sword belt. 

There is also nothing in the CAP uniform manual that gives any possibly construed permission that a sword of any variety is remotely permissible for wear with any CAP uniform.

there is nothing in the USAF AFI either....and yet they have a sword.
Having said that.....other then a weird thing you can hang on your wall...it is pretty useless.

[PHall]

It wasn't a Civil Air Patrol sword.  It was an Air Force sword that some vendor had etched "Civil Air Patrol" and a Cessna image onto the blade.   Civil Air Patrol does not have its own sword, because it is not needed for anything, ever.  An Air Force sword, intended for Air Force personnel (not CAP), costs between $300-$400 depending on the source and not adding in the cost of necessary accoutrements like a proper sword belt. 

There is also nothing in the CAP uniform manual that gives any possibly construed permission that a sword of any variety is remotely permissible for wear with any CAP uniform.

there is nothing in the USAF AFI either....and yet they have a sword.
Having said that.....other then a weird thing you can hang on your wall...it is pretty useless.

About the ONLY people in the Air Force you will see with the Air Force Sabre (it's not a sword...) are Air Force Academy graduates.
And that's because they had to buy one while they were at the Academy. (It's part of the USAFA Dress Uniform for Cadets First Class (seniors).)

[Pylon]

About the ONLY people in the Air Force you will see with the Air Force Sabre (it's not a sword...) are Air Force Academy graduates.
And that's because they had to buy one while they were at the Academy. (It's part of the USAFA Dress Uniform for Cadets First Class (seniors).)

The Air Force can call it a saber all they want, but it's not technically a saber by its design. 

[lordmonar]

It wasn't a Civil Air Patrol sword.  It was an Air Force sword that some vendor had etched "Civil Air Patrol" and a Cessna image onto the blade.   Civil Air Patrol does not have its own sword, because it is not needed for anything, ever.  An Air Force sword, intended for Air Force personnel (not CAP), costs between $300-$400 depending on the source and not adding in the cost of necessary accoutrements like a proper sword belt. 

There is also nothing in the CAP uniform manual that gives any possibly construed permission that a sword of any variety is remotely permissible for wear with any CAP uniform.

there is nothing in the USAF AFI either....and yet they have a sword.
Having said that.....other then a weird thing you can hang on your wall...it is pretty useless.

About the ONLY people in the Air Force you will see with the Air Force Sabre (it's not a sword...) are Air Force Academy graduates.
And that's because they had to buy one while they were at the Academy. (It's part of the USAFA Dress Uniform for Cadets First Class (seniors).)

Sorry paul...it is sword....sabers are curved....and yes about the only ones with sworda re AFA, the USAF honor guard and a few other ceremonies...but like I said...other then a nice wall ornament the sword is pretty useless.

[68w20]

It wasn't a Civil Air Patrol sword.  It was an Air Force sword that some vendor had etched "Civil Air Patrol" and a Cessna image onto the blade.   Civil Air Patrol does not have its own sword, because it is not needed for anything, ever.  An Air Force sword, intended for Air Force personnel (not CAP), costs between $300-$400 depending on the source and not adding in the cost of necessary accoutrements like a proper sword belt. 

There is also nothing in the CAP uniform manual that gives any possibly construed permission that a sword of any variety is remotely permissible for wear with any CAP uniform.

there is nothing in the USAF AFI either....and yet they have a sword.
Having said that.....other then a weird thing you can hang on your wall...it is pretty useless.

About the ONLY people in the Air Force you will see with the Air Force Sabre (it's not a sword...) are Air Force Academy graduates.
And that's because they had to buy one while they were at the Academy. (It's part of the USAFA Dress Uniform for Cadets First Class (seniors).)

Sorry paul...it is sword....sabers are curved....and yes about the only ones with sworda re AFA, the USAF honor guard and a few other ceremonies...but like I said...other then a nice wall ornament the sword is pretty useless.

I hate to be that guy, but...
http://shop.usafa.org/products/gifts/cadet-saber#.UM_L4W9kxXE

[lordmonar]

So the AFA book store does not know a saber from a sword......does not surprise me.

From Marlow White.....http://www.militarysabers.com/air-force-sword.html

[SarDragon]

Well, after a little research, it appears that sword is the inclusive term, and saber, cutlass, etc. are subsets.

There are straight sabers, particularly the Patton saber, so if USAFA wants to call their sword a saber, I see nothing wrong.

[krnlpanick]

As a collector of sharp pointy things - I would love to add one of these to my collection, it would make a nice addition; even though it is not in fact a saber (or a Sabre for that matter) - while I would forgive someone referring to a straight single edged sword as a saber, the defining quality of a saber is the thick flat back of the blade (the curve is also important).

This was important for cavalry soldiers who fought from horseback. The curved flat back was used to deflect spears and pole-arms when the cavalry was in a charge. I am sure I could dig up some historical reference to support this if I had a little more time, but if the power of the Google compels you it is not that difficult to find.

http://www.militarysabers.com/military-sword-information/m-us-army-sword.html

[PHall]

The two main uses for the Air Force Sabre are for salutes during parades at USAFA and for sabre arches during military weddings.
Other then that they're big, expensive keepsakes for academy graduates.

[Private Investigator]

I got a USMC ka-bar knife from my active duty days. Maybe a CAP ka-bar for the GT types   

[krnlpanick]

Fixed blade knives are as *not allowed* as swords and firearms. 

EDIT This is authorized -- http://www.vanguardmil.com/civil-air-patrol-3-1-2-lockback-knife-small-bronze-antique-p-16787.html

[Texas Raiders]

The USAF has both sabers and swords.  Sabers feature a curved blade with one cutting edge, swords feature a straight blade with double edges.   

The following is a list of the various ceremonial edged weapons of the US military.
Army Officer- Saber
Army NCO- Sword
Marine Corps Officer- Mameluke
Marine Corps NCO- Saber
Navy Officer- Sword
Navy CPO- Cutlass
Coast Guard Officer- Sword
Coast Guard CPO- Cutlass
Air Force Officer- Saber
Air Force NCO- Sword

http://www.militarysabers.com/

CAP's policy on edged weapons/knives-  http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/680/~/policy-on-knives-at-cap-meetings-and-during-cap-emergency-services-missions

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Looks the same as the Knights of Columbus Sword