Growing hair to donate

[cadetesman]

As you know, I'm a cadet. And of course, male cadets have to have military style haircuts.

However, I have been blessed with having extremely thick jet black hair, and I have been thinking of growing it out to donate to a group called locks of love which donates hair to those with cancer.

Any way I could do this and be in CAP?

Thanks

[Eclipse]

Any way I could do this and be in CAP?

No.  Its an admirable idea, but not going to be workable for a male cadet.

[Private Investigator]

Both of my daughters have done that.  :clap:

Great cause but not doable for a male Cadet.

[AngelWings]

Both of my daughters have done that.  :clap:

Great cause but not doable for a male Cadet.

The question is can you can keep under 1 and 1/4th of an inch in bulk (not length)? As others have said, not doable. 1 and 1/4th of an inch in bulk doesn't leave you the bare minimum to donate hair from what I've seen.

[rustyjeeper]

As you know, I'm a cadet. And of course, male cadets have to have military style haircuts.

However, I have been blessed with having extremely thick jet black hair, and I have been thinking of growing it out to donate to a group called locks of love which donates hair to those with cancer.

Any way I could do this and be in CAP?

Thanks

You could not wae the blues uniform or BDU and do it within regulation.
BUT
I have seen cadets with hair down to their A_ _ in the BBDU and there are no grooming standards for that uniform.
I would assume that a cadet could also wear the aviator combo for a dress uniform although I am not sure if the regs allow that or not ()

I AM NOT ADVOCATING for long haired hippie-looking cadets; merely suggesting a way in which you might be able to accomplish what you are trying to do. I would approach my DCC and Cadet Commander and discuss the ideas with them BEFORE buying more uniforms!

[spacecommand]

Cadets, no matter which uniform they wear, must comply with grooming standards.

[arajca]

Cadets, no matter which uniform they wear, must comply with grooming standards.

Correct. Reference CAPM 39-1 ICL, Para 2. l.

l. All cadet members must meet the grooming standards prescribed for AF-style uniforms in Attachment 2 of CAPM 39-1 whenever wearing a CAP uniform, including CAP Distinctive
Uniforms as well as USAF-style uniforms. Exceptions may be made at the discretion of the National Commander as necessary to comply with the law.

[AngelWings]

If it really matters to you, I suggest you ask for a waiver on wearing the uniform for this nobel cause. I reread your question and yes, you can be in CAP with long hair, as long as you get a waiver on wearing you uniform to CAP.

[PA Guy]

See above.  Yes, you can get a waiver but it can only be issued by the National Commander, local commanders don't have the authority to issue a waiver  for that.  Suggest you look for another project or take an extended leave of absence. 

[a2capt]

If you're going on a vacation this Summer, let it grow prior to, and if you've got enough lead time, you can grow it right to where it nearly wouldn't pass muster, and keep it going the whole time you're out and if you come back to a PT night you could stretch it for another week. Then you might get several weeks in .. and make the length needed to donate.

That's just one scenario.

[spacecommand]

If it really matters to you, I suggest you ask for a waiver on wearing the uniform for this nobel cause. I reread your question and yes, you can be in CAP with long hair, as long as you get a waiver on wearing you uniform to CAP.

From how I read it, a noble cause might not be enough for a waiver.  It doesn't simply say "at the discretion of the National Commander", the ICL reads:

Exceptions may be made at the discretion of the National Commander as necessary to comply with the law.

I'm no lawyer, but I assume it's specific in this regard to cover CAP incase of any lawsuits pertaining to hairstyles/religious wear/style or any other unforeseen legal rulings etc that could potentially arise.   

[ol'fido]

I don't think it would be a short term thing either. As I understand it, "Locks of Love" needs a certain length for donations and it ain't short.

[AngelWings]

If it really matters to you, I suggest you ask for a waiver on wearing the uniform for this nobel cause. I reread your question and yes, you can be in CAP with long hair, as long as you get a waiver on wearing you uniform to CAP.

From how I read it, a noble cause might not be enough for a waiver.  It doesn't simply say "at the discretion of the National Commander", the ICL reads:

Exceptions may be made at the discretion of the National Commander as necessary to comply with the law.

I'm no lawyer, but I assume it's specific in this regard to cover CAP incase of any lawsuits pertaining to hairstyles/religious wear/style or any other unforeseen legal rulings etc that could potentially arise.

Ahh, well that stinks. I don't see why in gods name you'd need the National Commander to approve a waiver to just not wear the uniform. What if someones leg is broken but still wants or needs to attend the meeting? Mneh, these regulations make me want to punch a pillow.

[spacecommand]

Nothing to my knowledge says you can't wear the uniform with a broken leg or arm.

[a2capt]

That .. isn't why someone wouldn't wear the uniform and need a waiver for it.

[abdsp51]

I have seen cadets with hair down to their A_ _ in the BBDU and there are no grooming standards for that uniform.
I would assume that a cadet could also wear the aviator combo for a dress uniform although I am not sure if the regs allow that or not ()

I AM NOT ADVOCATING for long haired hippie-looking cadets; merely suggesting a way in which you might be able to accomplish what you are trying to do. I would approach my DCC and Cadet Commander and discuss the ideas with them BEFORE buying more uniforms!

As those are corporate uniforms the AF style uniform grooming standards do not apply, however they must be neatly groomed and present a positive image.  And the aviator shirt is not authorized for cadets per CAPM39-1 4-2. 

Noble cause yes if you choose to participate then wear the BBDU if authorized by local commander/s, or take a leave of absence. 

[Eclipse]

As those are corporate uniforms the AF style uniform grooming standards do not apply, however they must be neatly groomed and present a positive image.  And the aviator shirt is not authorized for cadets per CAPM39-1 4-2. 

Note he said cadets. Grooming applies for cadets regardless of uniform worn.

[AngelWings]

Nothing to my knowledge says you can't wear the uniform with a broken leg or arm.

The cast can stop some parts, mainly pants, from fitting depending on the severity of the injury and the cast used. I only know this from hearing a parent talk to me about how her kid broke his leg and the cast and pants didn't really work together and hearing her trying to justify it even though it was fine with me.

That .. isn't why someone wouldn't wear the uniform and need a waiver for it.

All I am saying basically is I like the decent idea that someone wants to do this to help someone out he may never meet and I am trying to help the guy out.

[RogueLeader]

We understand that, and that it IS a noble goal. However, that is not allowable to male cadets. The regs just do not allow that to happen.

[caphornbuckle]

I can see the headlines now:

CIVIL AIR PATROL HATES LOCKS OF LOVE

True or not, this is what could happen when we have nothing eventful going on in the world and the media wants to stir up trouble.

(Wanna really make the AF and BoG mad?  Just put a message about this in a reporter's ear and watch it fly!) 

Seriously though...

If you are truly set on doing this, then I say go for it!  Talk with your unit commander on what you want to do and what your goals are.  Then let them decide if you should put your CAP service to the side for a couple of months or if you can still attend meetings out of uniform.  If you choose to take a few months off then do it. CAP will still be here when you get back!