Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 03, 2010, 12:18:47 PM
I don't think her US insignia is placed wrong, but her jacket is unbuttoned.  That makes them look wrong because of the fall of the jacket.  I can't tell from the picture if this woman is a general or a colonel.

Those seemed to be stars to me, and I found the Wiki on "General Diane Beckman" right here: http://chuck-nbc.wikia.com/wiki/Diane_Beckman

So if the stars are supposed to be centered... They're wrong.

Also, my picture with illustrations of the errors I pointed out; the left side (our left) seems to be okay, but the right is definitely off in my opinion:

You are right, now that you mention it, those DO look like stars, and they should be centered on the epaulet.

But... What do you expect from NBC?  I heard that one of their news nitwits addressed a Marine Lt. Col. consistently as "Lieutenant."

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 04, 2010, 12:31:46 AM
I heard that one of their news nitwits addressed a Marine Lt. Col. consistently as "Lieutenant."

Happens more often than you think. I was having a conversation with a friend last night who consistently referred to a Lt. Col. as Lieutenant until she actually read his full name & grade from her notes.

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 04, 2010, 12:31:46 AM

But... What do you expect from NBC?  I heard that one of their news nitwits addressed a Marine Lt. Col. consistently as "Lieutenant."

Don't believe every rumor you "hear."

C'mon, folks, its fiction.  I tend to dismiss these science fiction and action programs as being some sort of "alternate reality" type situation.  Thus, I can forgive minor uniform issues as easily as I can accept concepts like downloading an entire database of all the US government's secret information into a person's brain by a neural supercomputer called the Intersect.

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Isn't that the weird singer guy from the "Space Hippie" Episode?

Want to find uniform/protocol violations in a movie?  Watch "Into the Sun" with Anthony Michael Hall.  First 15 minutes and you'll be going nuts!

Sad thing is that this story is about an Air Force pilot serving as a Technical Advisor to a movie star.  He gives the star advice on how to be more "military".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104521/

Available on hulu.com last I checked.

To me it seems that since the Iraq war started the media has gotten a lot better at military ranks and unit identifications than they were.  We now have an entire generation of national level reporters who have spent a significant amount of time working on military issues which hasn't been the case since Vietnam. 

Obviously that doesn't translate well into Hollywood depictions of the military. 

ANY improvement in the media would be good. 

You guys had me all excited when I saw the picture of the guy in the grey uniform, i thought it was the new CSU for CAP.

That Star Trek episode "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" is one of my favourite, if not the favourite, episodes of the original series of all time.  Look for the opening footage of F-104's being scrambled (Offutt AFB?), and the pilot, Capt. John Christopher, wearing the old orange flight suit with the same leather nameplate and plastic-encased rank CAP still wears.

The SAC SP SSgt's ribbon rack top three is interesting...must have had quite a career, with an Air Force Cross, Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Medal...but no enlisted aircrew wings...

I've heard lieutenant commanders on ST addressed as "lieutenant" quite regularly...it's just TV.

With Iron Eagle...those F-16's and Kfirs must have had internal weapons bays, because they seemed to have limitless amounts of junk to shoot at each other.

The grey colonel's uniform would be disallowed for CAP because it has metal grade insignia.

I would be just fine with the old USAAF tan uniform the LtGen is wearing, though.

Seriously, though...if somehow the CSU were granted a reprieve, I wonder if we would be allowed a version of AFROTC insignia to wear as grade insignia with CAP cutouts.  Hard shoulder boards or metal pins for service coat, slides for white shirt (anything to get away from the greys!).

I doubt anyone would confuse those with AD grade insignia, even in the silly "low-light/at a distance" requirements.

And...

You can get them from VANGUARD!

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=7_465_470&zenid=...

http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=7_465_469&sort=20a&page=1

It's something like we probably would have gone to if the Tony McPeak uniform would have stayed anyway...

"Tomorrow is Yesterday," which was meant as a sequel to "The Naked Time" is an outstanding episode.  Did you notice that the Sgt in question has Presidential Unit Citations from Korea and Vietnam yet no service ribbons.

In that DS9 Episode "Little Green Men," the captain has his bars on in a manner I am unaccustomed.

Wearing unit awards like the PUC without campaign ribbons is not unusual.  If you are assigned to a unit that holds a unit award, you can wear it while you are assigned to the unit.  It is only permanently awarded to you if you were assigned when the cited action took place.

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on December 05, 2010, 11:55:46 PM
Wearing unit awards like the PUC without campaign ribbons is not unusual.  If you are assigned to a unit that holds a unit award, you can wear it while you are assigned to the unit.  It is only permanently awarded to you if you were assigned when the cited action took place.

I'm not pointing it out as wrong, but just pointing it out.

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 05, 2010, 11:56:47 PMI'm not pointing it out as wrong, but just pointing it out.

As you stated in a previous post:

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 05, 2010, 04:06:47 AMI tend to dismiss these science fiction and action programs as being some sort of "alternate reality" type situation.

I've started to look at it in the same way. It makes it easier to dismiss things that we know are incorrect. Besides, if there such things as "alternate realities" (which I neither believe nor disbelieve right now), what's to say such a thing wouldn't be right there? (Or "then", whichever applies.)

When you watch fictional programming, just try to watch the story.

Edit:spelling.

If anyone has seen the movie "Dear John", I noticed probably the worst uniform mess up that I have ever seen, I mean this was horrible. In the scenes where John is wearing only his dress shirt, look at his shoulder rank, he is a SSG, and his rank slides are upside down for the entire time. This was causing some serious brain problems for me.

Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on December 06, 2010, 02:40:21 PM
If anyone has seen the movie "Dear John", I noticed probably the worst uniform mess up that I have ever seen, I mean this was horrible. In the scenes where John is wearing only his dress shirt, look at his shoulder rank, he is a SSG, and his rank slides are upside down for the entire time. This was causing some serious brain problems for me.

They fixed it in the next scene...Man that drove me nuts.  It was so bad even my wife picked it out and other then me she's never been around the military.

Quote from: Hawk200 on December 06, 2010, 02:11:27 PM

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 05, 2010, 11:56:47 PMI'm not pointing it out as wrong, but just pointing it out.

As you stated in a previous post:

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 05, 2010, 04:06:47 AMI tend to dismiss these science fiction and action programs as being some sort of "alternate reality" type situation.

I've started to look at it in the same way. It makes it easier to dismiss things that we know are incorrect. Besides, if there such things as "alternate realities" (which I neither believe nor disbelieve right now), what's to say such a thing wouldn't be right there? (Or "then", whichever applies.)

When you watch fictional programming, just try to watch the story.

Edit:spelling.

In terms of fiction, I find the "alternate reality" thing is the only way.   

Fiction is good for that, The Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres and Petticoat Junction and in the same universe/reality potentially with Hogan Heroes based on one episode of Green Acres that is a flashback where Oliver Wendel Douglas is shot down over Hungary.

Fantasy Island and the Love Boat are in the same universe/reality, I saw one episode where the Pacific Princess brought people to Mr. Roarke and Tatoo.

Watching these programs and having hang ups over these issues in not in the spirit of watching the Television, where we are already suspending disbelief.

Quote from: eaker.cadet on December 05, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
You guys had me all excited when I saw the picture of the guy in the grey uniform, i thought it was the new CSU for CAP.

You do know who that is, don't you?  And from what show?

Jack

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 07, 2010, 12:20:10 AM
In terms of fiction, I find the "alternate reality" thing is the only way.   

That's the way I live my life anyway...you mean to tell me that I've been living a fiction for the past 45 years?

I'm NOT going to wake up in a luxurious stateroom aboard the Pacific Princess with the sun shining off Captain Stubing's chrome dome and beautiful Cruise Director Julie about to...well, we won't go down that road.

When I was a kid, Isaac (Ted Lange) was my hero. That guy was so smooth he didn't walk; he glided on silent treads. Plus, he had a poster of Jimi Hendrix (another hero) on his stateroom wall!

THEY didn't quibble and gripe about uniforms!

Hogan's Heroes was another favourite...but I have to throw a uniform nitpick in there!

Corporal Peter Newkirk's uniform was most certainly not an RAF uniform.  It was a mid-1950's USAF uniform with RAF insignia stuck on it.  The shade of blue of RAF/RCAF/RNZAF uniforms is a lot more grey (the RAAF uses a very dark "midnight blue," a shade darker than the USAF - it looks almost black), and battledress (Ike jacket) buttoned all the way up to the top without lapels.  His flight cap is a USAF cap with two buttons stuck on it to look like an RAF one, and he wears it straight on his head...very un-British.  Also, since he was a POW shot down over Germany, he would have worn an aircrew half-wing brevet of some kind (Observer, Wireless Air Gunner, Signaller, etc.).

And for being such a putz, a loveable one but a putz nonetheless, Oberst Wilhelm Klink is very decorated.

Quote from: ColonelJack on December 08, 2010, 09:53:49 PM

Quote from: eaker.cadet on December 05, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
You guys had me all excited when I saw the picture of the guy in the grey uniform, i thought it was the new CSU for CAP.

You do know who that is, don't you?  And from what show?

Jack

He's a cadet.  He doesn't remember Space Family Robinson