How about a daily status report from NOC in eservices?

[RiverAux]

Every now and again we hear that CAP sorties make up a majority of the sorties on AFNORTH's or 1AF's daily briefing (I forget which).  So, apparently someone is compiling some information on CAP's daily operational activities and giving it to them, or using some capability in WMIRS to generate such a report.

I think it would be absolutely wonderful if there were some sort of more or less automatically generated daily update on CAP operational missions available to all members through eservices. 

I'm not talking about anything incredibly detailed, but I don't think it would be hard to at least have something listing active open ES missions by Wing and type of mission.  And when a mission closes, mention the results the next day (3 saves, etc.)

I suppose you could probably segregate out some of the sensitive HLS missions to only be available to Wing Commanders or higher if there was a need.

Having some sort of view of what is going on across the nation on a daily basis would help remind everyone that a lot of things are going on and that even if you're not doing something right now, it could change at any time. 

Really, only a small fraction of missions get coverage in the Volunteer, and not many more than that are mentioned on VolunteerNow either.

Just think about it -- CAP is apparently given credit for 75-100 saves a year, but we only hear about maybe a dozen (if that) through our public affairs program.  Having this sort of thing announced through such a briefing report would be somewhat inspirational. 

[Tubacap]

You know, that could be a really useful report for both morale purposes, sense of purpose purposes, and also for showing political types.

[RiverAux]

fyi, there was a time when I think anyone with WMIRS access could pull up information on all the open missions in any state and you could open up the operational plans and look at individual sorties.  Obviously, that level of detail isn't needed and also required you to click the map for all 50 states if you wanted a national overview....

[High Speed Low Drag]

I think that it would be a good idea for all the reasons mentioned.  Even the HLS missions could just be given as a number (the where and what being secret).  It would definately allow us to remind our members that they ain't paper training.

[PHall]

And why do you feel that the NOC has to post this stuff?
The briefing that the 1AF/CC gets has classified and FOUO stuff that can't be released to the general public. (Like those HLS missions.)
So basically you want the NOC to generate a second briefing just to satisfy a few people's idle curiosity.
I think the NOC has better things to do.

[High Speed Low Drag]

I think RiverAux stated that if it could be automatically generated.  I wouldn't want to hand task NOC with it.

[RiverAux]

Exactly.  Given the fields in WMIRS already, all you would need to do is dedicate some time to generate the right query and set it up to automatically dump into eservices at some time every day. 

Although the "results" that I asked for aren't in WMIRS at this time, though they certainly should be.  There should be some box that needs to be filled in at the close of every ES mission with some sort of description of the outcome.  NHQ used to do this via EXCEL spreadsheet many years ago and post the information on all missions by wing on the web page at the end of the year.  Haven't done it for 4 or 5. 

As to idle curiosity, besides the reasons I already gave, I suppose I could play the "taxpayers are paying for it card". 

From a historians point of view, it sure would be nice to have such daily situation reports since our national annual reports have almost no level of detail to them and since most wings don't produce annual histories of their own.  These would be very valuable historical documents in their own right. 

Keep in mind that almost every ES mission in WMIRS that would be included in such a report is going to be public knowledge in some form or fashion and hopefully the local PIOs are working to advertise our participation.  In fact, any mission over 48 hours is required to have a PIO.  So putting out a daily report that tells what sorts of missions are going on in each wing isn't really secret squirrel level info.

[Gunner C]

I get the ATO (air tasking order) every week.  It's not that impressive.

[PHall]

As to idle curiosity, besides the reasons I already gave, I suppose I could play the "taxpayers are paying for it card". 

The taxpayers pay for the "President's Daily Briefing" too, but I don't think you're going to be able to get a copy of that anytime soon.

I guess the first question is, do you have a valid need for the info or is this just idle curiosity?
In other words, what will you be using it for?

About the only folks out here in the field that might have a need for it would be the PA folks so they could write press releases and articles.

[RiverAux]

I've already explained my reasons, however, just for you I'll add another one:
This would make it possible for members in wings with ongoing ES missions to know what is going on and prepare themselves without waiting for the rusty chain of command to pass information along.  This would be especially beneficial to those in adjoining wings who might get sucked into the mission later.  A little bit of a heads up can be very helpful in these situations.

[PHall]

I've already explained my reasons, however, just for you I'll add another one:
This would make it possible for members in wings with ongoing ES missions to know what is going on and prepare themselves without waiting for the rusty chain of command to pass information along.  This would be especially beneficial to those in adjoining wings who might get sucked into the mission later.  A little bit of a heads up can be very helpful in these situations.

Wouldn't that info come from AFRCC and not the NOC? If you're going to ask for some info why get it second hand? Get it from the source, AFRCC.

[lordmonar]

Well,  You can still see the all the missions in WMIRS for your wing....can't see anything else.

That would be good enough for most local units who want to what's going on.

[RiverAux]

Maybe the title of my thread is wrong.  If we make it an autoreport of some kind, no NOC involvement would be necessary.  But, seeing as how all CAP ES activities go into WMIRS, no AFRCC involvement is necessarily implied either (think about corporate missions for local and state agencies or disaster relief missions not handled by AFRCC). 

I'm not entirely sure that every CAP members has full viewing access to WMIRS.  I've gotten mixed reports on that issue in the past, though I haven't checked lately.  I've got super duper WMIRS access, so it hasn't been an issue for me. 

But, you are right that at least those with access (maybe everyone) could get to some of this info now, but why not make it even easier?  A single tab on the left side of e-services to run the auto report and you'd have everything.   

[lordmonar]

IIRC everyone with an ES rating can see WMIRS.....all I know is that I got a busted GBD rating and I can see all of my wing's missions.

[sdcapmx]

When you log into WMIRS and get the "Welcome" screen the first item is "Mission Status Map" but I can't find it anywhere within WMIRS.  It used to be on the LH side under the "Tools and Utilities" tab I believe.  I know it was there somewhere but it is gone.  I asked NOC about it but they really did not have a good answer. 

[RiverAux]

Haven't seen that for a very long time.  However, even when it was in WMIRS it was never even close to accurate.  Most of the times I looked it would only show 1 or 2 wings with active missions and back in the day when you could look at other wing's mission list you could find a lot of open missions not being represented on that map. 

[IceNine]

I think a better use of this information would be for continuing ed.

I have always thought that every mission should have a formal AAR.  The last thing loaded into wmirs before closing a mission should be this document and any that are not classified should be general access for at a minimum upper level mission staff.

A report from WMIRS daily or weekly would provide a quick index for AAR's that should be placed on the "reading list".

But this is of course a pipe dream and does not validate this current thread.

[RiverAux]

I'm with you, but I'd be happy with a requirement that they be written for our biggest missions at least. 

[Short Field]

I have always thought that every mission should have a formal AAR. 

Totally agree.  I always build a AAR powerpoint briefing to give to my squadron after every incident I participate in (mostly as an IC but not always).   The big caveat is I can only speak for what I saw and that tends to leave it fairly one sided.   A requirement for inputs to the lead wing's DO to prepare a AAR would be great.  The inputs should be required for key staff positions (especially IC) and optional for all members.  The AARs would then be posted and available for use by squadrons in their training programs.