BOG meeting today?

[NCRblues]

I know someone said the bog meets today. Is their anyplace we can watch it, or is it all closed door? Also is there an agenda out, or are we flying by the seat of our pants again?

[FW]

The BoG "met" today.  Meeting started at 10:00 EST and ended about an hour ago.  Only 8 of the 11 members were present.  I don't think there was a quorum but, I don't think that stopped them from making any decsions. 

The meeting is an open one however, it is not streamed.  There is an agenda however, we don't get to see it for many months after the fact.  The general membership is usually discouraged from attending because of the small venue at the hotel.  Also the meeting is mostly a rehash of the prior NB and NEC meetings. 

[NCRblues]

Thank you. Do we know if they made any decisions, and if so what they were?

[FW]

The only thing I can think of that would be of interest to the general membership was how our investments were going to be handled.  I doubt if the uniform item was discussed.  Also, there may have been some talk about Col Tilton's removal from the "at large" position.  This is purely speculation however.  Other issues would be budget appoval and employee issues.

[Pumbaa]

They are bringing back the CSU.

[NCRblues]

very funny pumbaa

[Westernslope]

The only thing I can think of that would be of interest to the general membership was how our investments were going to be handled.  I doubt if the uniform item was discussed.  Also, there may have been some talk about Col Tilton's removal from the "at large" position.  This is purely speculation however.  Other issues would be budget appoval and employee issues.

Tilton's term on the BOG was due to expire in a few of months, why the rush to have him removed now? Wonder if it had anything to do with the questions he was asking about CAP financial investments?

[RADIOMAN015]

Frankly is this Board worth the expense of even having a meeting?
Are they really meeting the objectives (principal task) as listed in AFI 10-2702 (para 2)?  (especially when you talking about long term objectives  -- I don't ever recall seeing anything about LT objectives published anywhere  (long term = greater than 1 year, likely up to 5 years)

Has anyone every seen one of the reports (at least annually) that they are suppose to provide to the Secty of the AF? (para 3.2)  (or is it the same public relations type report that goes to Congress?).  If not I wonder IF an FOIA request would get those reports?

Also in the Government, Education & Industry category, shouldn't an attempt be made to get another "civilian" member in that category as opposed to another AF General Officer? (basically 6 General officers on the board)

Is the current board membership structure really limiting CAP as a non profit organization ?
RM

[Flying Pig]

Any word on the funding being restored for CD Operations and training?

[NCRblues]

Radio, I will tell you from personal experience that cap responds to FOIA by claiming the corporation doesn't fall under The FOIA rules, and the courts have agreed with them. I don't agree with it but....

I have never ever seen one of those reports to the SECAF, I would like to though.

[FW]

Any word on the funding being restored for CD Operations and training?

Budget was approved as recommended from NEC.  NO restoration of training funds.

The only thing I can think of that would be of interest to the general membership was how our investments were going to be handled.  I doubt if the uniform item was discussed.  Also, there may have been some talk about Col Tilton's removal from the "at large" position.  This is purely speculation however.  Other issues would be budget appoval and employee issues.

Tilton's term on the BOG was due to expire in a few of months, why the rush to have him removed now? Wonder if it had anything to do with the questions he was asking about CAP financial investments?

Tilton's term would have expired in Sept or Oct 2010.  I'm not going to speculatate on the reasons for his removal. 

[FW]

Oh, The BoG decided to withold action on changing our investment advisors until they could obtain more information.  I wonder if anyone on the board was reading Mr. Hayden's blog? 

[FW]

Radio, I will tell you from personal experience that cap responds to FOIA by claiming the corporation doesn't fall under The FOIA rules, and the courts have agreed with them. I don't agree with it but.

I have never ever seen one of those reports to the SECAF, I would like to though.

CAP is exempt from FOIA because it is not a government entity however, The Secretary of the Air Force is required to comply.  I'm not saying but, you could possibly request the report from that source....   

[Angus]

The BoG "met" today.  Meeting started at 10:00 EST and ended about an hour ago.  Only 8 of the 11 members were present.  I don't think there was a quorum but, I don't think that stopped them from making any decsions. 

The meeting is an open one however, it is not streamed.  There is an agenda however, we don't get to see it for many months after the fact.  The general membership is usually discouraged from attending because of the small venue at the hotel.  Also the meeting is mostly a rehash of the prior NB and NEC meetings. 

Just as a point of information if 8 members out of 11 appeared they had quorum.  Quorum is defined as 50% +1 so all they needed in this case was 6.

[jimmydeanno]

The BoG "met" today.  Meeting started at 10:00 EST and ended about an hour ago.  Only 8 of the 11 members were present.  I don't think there was a quorum but, I don't think that stopped them from making any decsions. 

The meeting is an open one however, it is not streamed.  There is an agenda however, we don't get to see it for many months after the fact.  The general membership is usually discouraged from attending because of the small venue at the hotel.  Also the meeting is mostly a rehash of the prior NB and NEC meetings.

Seems to be a little tension here - at least the way I read it...

[FW]

Tension?  I don't think so.  It's a shame that the "at large" members were not present at the meeting.  Neither was one of the "joint" appointees present.  The meetings are always held in a small conference room and all the members act in a professional and collegial manner.

When I have attended the meetings, I have usually found nothing new presented.  They are the final decision makers for the proposals sent up by the NB and NEC.  Sometimes there are decisions like " Let's get CAP on a sound financial footing with an unqualified audit".   But, for the most part, we've heard it before.

[Cecil DP]

The BoG "met" today.  Meeting started at 10:00 EST and ended about an hour ago.  Only 8 of the 11 members were present.  I don't think there was a quorum but, I don't think that stopped them from making any decsions. 

The meeting is an open one however, it is not streamed.  There is an agenda however, we don't get to see it for many months after the fact.  The general membership is usually discouraged from attending because of the small venue at the hotel.  Also the meeting is mostly a rehash of the prior NB and NEC meetings. 

Just as a point of information if 8 members out of 11 appeared they had quorum.  Quorum is defined as 50% +1 so all they needed in this case was 6.

There is a proposal that all three constituencies (AF, CAP, and industry)have to have at least one member present in addition to having a majority of the BogG

[ZigZag911]

Radio, I will tell you from personal experience that cap responds to FOIA by claiming the corporation doesn't fall under The FOIA rules, and the courts have agreed with them. I don't agree with it but....

I have never ever seen one of those reports to the SECAF, I would like to though.

Doesn't DOD -- and therefore SECAF -- fall under FOIA? With security restrictions, I'm sure.

Try getting the document that route.

[lordmonar]

Radio, I will tell you from personal experience that cap responds to FOIA by claiming the corporation doesn't fall under The FOIA rules, and the courts have agreed with them. I don't agree with it but....

I have never ever seen one of those reports to the SECAF, I would like to though.

Doesn't DOD -- and therefore SECAF -- fall under FOIA? With security restrictions, I'm sure.

Try getting the document that route.

That might work....but.....just because the government has been given a report does not mean they then have to release it.   In the case of CAP's report to SECAF....it could be seen as a report from a contractor and therefor could be considere proprietary information.

[Airrace]

Thanks for the information.