spelling vs shorthand on this board

Started by flyguy06, October 16, 2009, 03:43:09 AM

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flyguy06

Quote from: Short Field on October 16, 2009, 07:22:39 AM
Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 05:42:21 AM
If i wrote this sentence and I idnt neccesarly complete iot or spell out each word I thing you stil know what I am trying to say.

If it works, then convince your boss to use that on your next performance report.  It would sure make life a lot simpiler for him.   ;)


I am the boss

flyguy06

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Quote from: EMT-83 on October 16, 2009, 12:21:42 PM
It's been implied here that I'm a spelling/grammar Nazi. I am not. I do, however, put a lot of thought into the words I write, and then proofread to see that they make sense. I wish others here would do the same. There have been several topics where I stayed out of the discussion because I couldn't figure out which side of the argument the writers were defending!

And I wish Senior Members would take the military aspect of CAP more seriously but not gonna happen anytime soon, so I deal with it.

AT any rate, I apprecite all the responces. You people take grammer and this more wayyyyy more seriously than i do I guess. For your information, yes I do know how to spell obviously, like I say I choose not to proof posts. I will try to do better ok? Is that what you want to hear. You're right and I am wrong.


You folks took one simple questions and turned into 20 posts. WOW. Apparently it is serious to you all so I wil try and proff next time. If you didnt know that word was proof.

arajca

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 05:42:21 AM
If i wrote this sentence and I idnt neccesarly complete iot or spell out each word I thing you stil know what I am trying to say.
Actually, no. After about six or seven words, I stop because you've shown me your point is insignificant to you, so why should I care about it.

Everyone makes the occasional spelling or grammar mistake. No big deal. Consistantly making them shows a lack of care on YOUR part, resulting a lack of caring on the readers' part.

PHall

Flyguy, let me ask you one question. Would you be willing to let your Brigade Commander read your posts here on CAPTalk?

Spike

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 03:43:09 AM
Now I can decipher what the text messages are saying. So I ask why is that acceptable in today's society but if i use shorthand on a social message board it is not? I don't gt it.

Simple.  We do not like reading posts where a person obviously has no interest in making sure the post reads correctly. 

I stop at the first sentence if I see it is going to read that way through the entire post. 

That is not respectful to all your fellow posters here. 

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
AT any rate, I apprecite all the responces. You people take grammar and this more Way more seriously than i do I guess. For your information, yes I do know how to spell obviously, like I say I choose not to proof posts. I will try to do better OK? Is that what you want to hear. You're right and I am wrong.

No, you do not know how to spell or use the English language appropriately. 

QuoteYou folks took one simple questions and turned into 20 posts. WOW. Apparently it is serious to you all so I Will try and proof next time. If you didn't know that word was proof.

Every time a post does not go your way, you throw out something like what you said above.  That is getting old now.  You started this thread, you brought others into it, you responded multiple times.....you Sir are responsible, not the rest of us!

BTW....Firefox fixed some of your spelling mistakes in my reply for you!  Your Welcome. 

flyguy06

Quote from: PHall on October 16, 2009, 03:55:55 PM
Flyguy, let me ask you one question. Would you be willing to let your Brigade Commander read your posts here on CAPTalk?

Yes. Because he would undertsand the nature of a social message board.

flyguy06

Quote from: Spike on October 16, 2009, 05:46:08 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 03:43:09 AM
Now I can decipher what the text messages are saying. So I ask why is that acceptable in today's society but if i use shorthand on a social message board it is not? I don't gt it.

Simple.  We do not like reading posts where a person obviously has no interest in making sure the post reads correctly. 

I stop at the first sentence if I see it is going to read that way through the entire post. 

That is not respectful to all your fellow posters here. 

Quote from: flyguy06 on October 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
AT any rate, I apprecite all the responces. You people take grammar and this more Way more seriously than i do I guess. For your information, yes I do know how to spell obviously, like I say I choose not to proof posts. I will try to do better OK? Is that what you want to hear. You're right and I am wrong.

No, you do not know how to spell or use the English language appropriately. 

QuoteYou folks took one simple questions and turned into 20 posts. WOW. Apparently it is serious to you all so I Will try and proof next time. If you didn't know that word was proof.

Every time a post does not go your way, you throw out something like what you said above.  That is getting old now.  You started this thread, you brought others into it, you responded multiple times.....you Sir are responsible, not the rest of us!

BTW....Firefox fixed some of your spelling mistakes in my reply for you!  Your Welcome.


Spike,

I already said I was wrong.i already said I would try and do better. I realize I started the thread I got the answers I was seeking. What is it you want me to say. The discussion really should be over now. I GET IT. What more do you want?

aveighter

As I write this I am sitting outside the south gate entrance to the Air Force Academy.  It is a place where excellence is required regardless of background and circumstances.  The future leadership of the Air Force and many aspects of American society comes from this place and others like it.  My prospective son-in-law is among them.

As some of you may know, I am also the father/father-in-law of three serving Air Force officers and am myself wrestling with the ACSC curriculum.  I say these things only to make the point that I have some insight into officership and what that means.

So when I see the rationalization of barely to incomprehensible expression of thought I must doubt the veracity of the authors self description.  It is a critical skill for an officer with any command responsibility to be able to communicate clearly and concisely.  This included both verbal and written communications.  An officer that is not only incapable of this but seem to pride himself in that inability must surely not be a commissioned officer of the United States.  No route to a commission, ROTC, OTS or an academy would tolerate such a candidate.  Even political correctness has not lowered us to that point.  How would such an officer be fit for any kind of command responsibility?  How could an officer with such an attitude serve as a role model for personnel under his command?  How in the world could CAP allow such a person to serve as a leader of young people in the cadet program?  What are the lessons a young person may take away from exposure from such a person?

By the way, I spell checked and corrected several errors in this post.  It took 8 seconds.  I checked.

flyguy06

Quote from: aveighter on October 16, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
As I write this I am sitting outside the south gate entrance to the Air Force Academy.  It is a place where excellence is required regardless of background and circumstances.  The future leadership of the Air Force and many aspects of American society comes from this place and others like it.  My prospective son-in-law is among them.

As some of you may know, I am also the father/father-in-law of three serving Air Force officers and am myself wrestling with the ACSC curriculum.  I say these things only to make the point that I have some insight into officership and what that means.

So when I see the rationalization of barely to incomprehensible expression of thought I must doubt the veracity of the authors self description.  It is a critical skill for an officer with any command responsibility to be able to communicate clearly and concisely.  This included both verbal and written communications.  An officer that is not only incapable of this but seem to pride himself in that inability must surely not be a commissioned officer of the United States.  No route to a commission, ROTC, OTS or an academy would tolerate such a candidate.  Even political correctness has not lowered us to that point.  How would such an officer be fit for any kind of command responsibility?  How could an officer with such an attitude serve as a role model for personnel under his command?  How in the world could CAP allow such a person to serve as a leader of young people in the cadet program?  What are the lessons a young person may take away from exposure from such a person?

By the way, I spell checked and corrected several errors in this post.  It took 8 seconds.  I checked.

aveighter,

I had actually put this matter to rest and wasnt going to comment any further but since you basically insulted me and challenegd my authentication, I felt the need to reply.

I am glad that you are the father/father in law of three Air Force officer. And I am equally happy that you are enrolled inthe ACSC. But I am a real military officer. I hate to tell you but that does not mean you have the slightest bit of insight into officership. All those "cool" words and phrases you use about pride and  able to communicate effectivley sound very nice. They look good inthe movies and all of that. But my friend ,I hate to tell you this but the real world is a lot different. I didnt go to a fancy Academy. I came up through the ranks staring as a Private. My soldiers repspect me ten times more than an academy graduate becaus eI have been where they have been. i have sat at 3 am on a point in the cold. I have cleaned my fair share of latrines. I have had to do wash vehicles in the motor pool on a Friday night. been there  done that. Again all the "glory " stuff you spout, please save it for Hollywood. The real military is about doing a job and going home safely to your family.

Now basically again you have called me a liar and you are saying that I am not a real officer. Fortunantly there are people here on Captalk that know me personally and can vouch for the fact of what I am, but I dont really need that. I know who I am and what I have done.

Again, as I have said I dont communicate to soldiers the way I communicate on here. I have written plenty of memos and Operation orders and NCO evaluations, and counseling statements to soldiers. Of course I check spelling. Thats obvious. CAptalk is not that environment.

I had putthis subject to rest. I really tried tnot to let it get to me, but you keep on keeping on. A guy can only take so much. I apologized. I said I would try better and then this guy comes on and basocally says i am not a realofficer. iIworked to hard for what I gto and I amnot going to have anyone challenge me. If you want I will give you my AKO email address and you can verify ok? If thatis what makes you happy.

My God people, I had a good day today. I went to a school to talk about possibly starting an SEP unit there. I come home to this thread.

Most of the people on here I enjoy chatting with. i have gotten some great advice  but I didnt realize that there people in CAP as mean and careless as this. Its appauling and in my opinion I wonder what kind of morals you have sir.

END OF ISSUE.


notaNCO forever

 I never knew Hollywood put a emphasize on proper spelling and grammar having to do with pride and respect. 

MIKE

Mike Johnston