If you could be a Cadet again, would you?

[heliodoc]

^^^^^

Ah yes the cadet program of the 1970's and 1980's

When CAP was real and really meant something and wasn't "sissified" by those suing legal types and safety averse regs and that when when did not go looking for DDR beer goggles. 

We did pushups just for giggles and most of never approached hazing issues....we got that when we enlisted

Yep, Stonewall,  no kumbaya and especially no boxes to check of on some lame SQTR form that somebody plagarized from the military as a "taskbook" and even less worries and LESS threads about people "pencilwhipping" training.  There were real no percieved (sp) delays in signoffs and surely NO waits for some clown to come on down from Wing to "observe training."  Squadrons just DID IT and DIDIED and moved on.

So the CAP cadet program of 20-30 years ago was more streamlined or was apparently so.,,,

Other CAPers here with 20 or less yrs IN and OUT of the organization or seniors that were never cadets will never understand the program of yore.......but there are plenty-o-CAPers here that will tell you that today's cadet program is the best thing.....sure it is... from these days one...nothing to compare it to

[jimmydeanno]

...and safety averse regs and that when when did not go looking for DDR beer goggles.

Are you typing with them on? 

and even less worries and LESS threads about people "pencilwhipping" training.

Because the internet didn't exist...and there wasn't any paper to pencil whip.

There were real no percieved (sp) delays in signoffs and surely NO waits for some clown to come on down from Wing to "observe training."  Squadrons just DID IT and DIDIED and moved on.

Our unit does that now.  We had a harder time getting training done WIWAC 13 years ago...at least there is a standard set of skills listed for each training level. 

Other CAPers here with 20 or less yrs IN and OUT of the organization or seniors that were never cadets will never understand the program of yore.......but there are plenty-o-CAPers here that will tell you that today's cadet program is the best thing.....sure it is... from these days one...nothing to compare it to

Sounds like a "the older I get, the harder I was" scenario.  I talk to plenty of former cadets from that era who say nothing but bad things about it.  Lack of organization, no resources available, etc, etc.  Must be a difference in local units from the time, which is pretty much what you have today.  None of the issues you list even remotely occur in my unit.

Plus, I don't even know the words to kumbaya. 

[heliodoc]

^^^

Why yes I was typing with my DDR beer googles on

The older I get, the harder it was scenario does not exist.  I went searching for activities such as PJOC and USAF Academy Survival Course and other course that did not resemble the Hawk Mountain mantra, although they thought theier feces did not stink back then...

You are talking to the few who thought it was bad.  BITD, we did community service projects and went on natural disasters just like today, but we were NOT looking for a pat on the back from the public and surely explaining ALOT better about CAP was about.

And there in lies the problem with CAP, everything is NOT consistent, is localized, and yet the same problems exist from 30 years ago. 

Careful jimmydeanno, next thing you know,  you'll have Eclipse Explaining to you "local perception is not National reality."   But  IN REALITY the same problems STILL exist in CAP.  CAP is not in every community and nor does it have the capacity to do so.  CAP folks STILL have to drive hundreds od miles for training and nowadays internet is supposed to replace that? 

Yep CAP has change.... Internet, risk averse people running the show, lack of real mentoring,

The same stuff still exists in CAP...only CAPers here think they have the MOST high speed units.  The reality is.... ALOT of CAP is still local and not every Sqdn has a sooperdooper cadet or senior program

[Angus]

I was never a cadet.  When I could have been the idea of the program was soured on me by a cadet at that time.  We were both in JROTC and he made some comments towards me while in our in uniforms that were very unprofessional.  At the time he was in his CAP and I in my JROTC. 

[Stonewall]

Posting from my Crackberry so I can't quote...

I try NOT to sound like "it was tougher BITD", so I apologize if that's how I came across.

I think it was easier to be a cadet BITD; you just showed up and did it.  We THOUGHT we were tough guys, but only in the sense that we had to be more creative and do things ourselves and we didn't have to worry about violating a policy that may or may not have existed.  We didn't know so it didn't matter to us.  We didn't know if we were in violation of the regs because no one knew the regs.  Made life a lot easier.  Now, regs are at your fingertips.  IMHO, this sucks the fun out of it.

[BLACKSHARK]

Ironically, I grew up in the same squadron that BLACKSHARK did above, just several years before him.  Don't know him, BTW.

Actually we met arround 99 or 01 time frame. If I am correct you brought a picture book of yall at camp blanding and hanging with some sf dudes. The memory is very clouded but I am sure we have met.