Former AF PME

[Kaye Downing]

I have taken SOS and ACSC when I was in the AF. Can I get credit in CAP towards my professional development or will I have to retake the courses when I reach the proper rank?

Kaye Downing, SM
Jacksonville Composite Squadron

[DBlair]

I believe you do get credit for those.

Also, if you were up to the point where you were able to take ACSC in the AF, then I'm guessing you were an AF Major or higher, and so this could carry over to you being a Major or LtCol in CAP and so you wouldn't really have to worry about the CAP promotion requirements anyway.

[AlphaSigOU]

In days of old, RealMilitary® PME credit for CAP expired 20 years after one took it. That restriction has been removed and there is no restriction on credit for military PME.

Completion of SOS adds a bronze star to the Garber award; the remaining requirements to complete Level IV still need to be done.

Completion of ACSC adds a bronze star to the Gill Robb Wilson Award. Same deal as the Garber; the remaining requirements for Level V must be completed.

One can be appointed to their former AD grade once Level I is completed at the commander's discretion; it is the member's responsibility to 'backfill' any CAP professional development requirements. A DD 214 or retired mil ID card showing grade is proof.

[MSgt Van]

Email a copy of your DD214 to JCARROLL@capnhq.gov and she'll take a look and determine what credit you can receive. It depends on when you took the AF courses as course content has changed over time. I sent 214's in for myself and another NCO and now we're complete up through National Staff College.

[RiverAux]

Also, if you were up to the point where you were able to take ACSC in the AF, then I'm guessing you were an AF Major or higher, and so this could carry over to you being a Major or LtCol in CAP and so you wouldn't really have to worry about the CAP promotion requirements anyway.

There is no guarantee that such promotions will take place, though they usually do. 

[davedove]

Also, if you were up to the point where you were able to take ACSC in the AF, then I'm guessing you were an AF Major or higher, and so this could carry over to you being a Major or LtCol in CAP and so you wouldn't really have to worry about the CAP promotion requirements anyway.

There is no guarantee that such promotions will take place, though they usually do.

Yes, and it shouldn't be about the promotions anyway.  After all, as has been said here many times, the promotions don't really mean much anyway.  A person should be pursuing the PD requirements so that he or she is better prepared to serve in CAP. :angel:

[DBlair]

Also, if you were up to the point where you were able to take ACSC in the AF, then I'm guessing you were an AF Major or higher, and so this could carry over to you being a Major or LtCol in CAP and so you wouldn't really have to worry about the CAP promotion requirements anyway.

There is no guarantee that such promotions will take place, though they usually do.

Yes, and it shouldn't be about the promotions anyway.  After all, as has been said here many times, the promotions don't really mean much anyway.  A person should be pursuing the PD requirements so that he or she is better prepared to serve in CAP. :angel:

I agree. Regarding advancement to former military grade, that is why I said 'could' as it is indeed up to the commander and so forth.

Likewise, I agree that CAP promotions/grade don't really mean much as I've seen many CAP Lieutenants and Captains who knew a lot more about the program and who were quite a bit more effective than many CAP Majors and Lieutenant Colonels (not taking a shot at any field grade officers on the board, just making a point that such situations do sometimes exist).

My point is that CAP grade is more recognition of PD/time in CAP than it is about actual operational effectiveness, command ability, or the extra 0 on our paychecks when we get promoted. As SMs, we should all focus on learning as much as we can, participating in PD, and preparing ourselves in other important areas so that we may become better and more effective CAP Officers and organizational leaders.

[Kaye Downing]

Thank you all for the assistance. I was a senior captain when I took ACSC before the AF changed the course grade requirement to being a major. I am not so much interested in the promotion aspects as I am a FNG  (Friendly New Gal ) in the group and have much to learn about the organization.  I am not interested in replacing some of the CAP schools with prior PME but rather supplementing them with the PME at the appropriate level. I would like to attend the CLC and RCC courses as I think they would teach me more of the CAP way of doing things.  I will send off my DD214 this week

Kaye Downing, SM
Jacksonville Composite Squadron

BTW: In the short time I have been in I sure have learned alot. I sure do like the PD and the ES training.