July Volunteer

[RiverAux]

For those of you who somehow think the Volunteer is "anti-ES", please note that the July issue (available online now: http://www.cap.gov/visitors/news/civil_air_patrol_volunteer/ ) has the following feature articles:
1.  CAP participation in wildfire control
2.  Iowa wing response to flooding
3.  Response of other wings to flooding
4.  CAP flying as part of NG training exercise
5.  CAP flying air intercept missions
6.  CAP response to tornado outbreak

However, the cover again went to another topic (the President with a former cadet)

My shots at the issue:
Is it just me or does anyone else find it odd that the story titles in the Table of Contents don't actually match the titles of the articles? 

Not sure devoting a whole page to an add for the national PAO academy was worth the expense considering that all PAOs should be very well aware of it through other sources by now anyway. 

[SarDragon]

Not sure devoting a whole page to an add for the national PAO academy was worth the expense considering that all PAOs should be very well aware of it through other sources by now anyway. 

Gotta remember, this is as much an external publication as internal.

[mikeylikey]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

[mikeylikey]

I just finished reading the entire thing.  Was it overly depressing this time??  I mean wow!  I am actually depressed.  Real big stories that were bummers.......suicide, cancer, one womans kids all had medical issues. 

The tone was not upbeat nor uplifting.  As a prospective member I would be like "holy cow, these CAP people seem to all have some major problems in their lives.

Even the side articles on the passing of members seemed very, depressing.

Jeez.  Maybe next time they can focus on stories about, i don't know.....ANYTHING but DEATH. 

[Flying Pig]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

[BillB]

SarDragon.   The Volunteer is in rea;ity no longer an external information source. Since the subscription rate was raised from $5 to $25, the number of "external" subscriptions purchased by CAP members for public libraries has dropped. The Volunteer is left as an internal information source.
The use of The Volunteer as an external information source at public libraries was a good PAO tool that no longer exists.

[Tubacap]

^It still could be, find someone who gets two copies and donate one to the  library.

[RiverAux]

I just finished reading the entire thing.  Was it overly depressing this time??  I mean wow!  I am actually depressed.  Real big stories that were bummers.......suicide, cancer, one womans kids all had medical issues. 

The tone was not upbeat nor uplifting.  As a prospective member I would be like "holy cow, these CAP people seem to all have some major problems in their lives.

Even the side articles on the passing of members seemed very, depressing.

Jeez.  Maybe next time they can focus on stories about, i don't know.....ANYTHING but DEATH. 

How about looking at the stories as how CAP has helped sick children, gave a former cadet some of the tools needed to help a friend, and helped an adult reach her goals while bringing her family closer together?

[Eclipse]

Oh suuuurrreee, the old "glass 1/2 full attitude!?!?"

Now where has THAT ever gotten anyone? 

[RiverAux]

I'm trying it for a change of pace....

[Pylon]

SarDragon.   The Volunteer is in rea;ity no longer an external information source. Since the subscription rate was raised from $5 to $25, the number of "external" subscriptions purchased by CAP members for public libraries has dropped. The Volunteer is left as an internal information source.
The use of The Volunteer as an external information source at public libraries was a good PAO tool that no longer exists.

That's very sad, Bill.  There's no way that copies of the volunteer cost more than $1 to $1.5 per copy to print. Add negligible non-profit, bulk rate postage.  Take into consideration all of the paid advertising in there, and then the $25 fee is very, very sad. 

I know because I produce a similarly-formatted publication for the non-profit I work for.  Full-color, full-bleeds, glossy magazine.  With no advertising.  Costs us under $1/copy to print at those massive quantities.  And we spend money to send it for free to over 10,000 people because it's that valuable of a PR tool.

[RiverAux]

I'm sure that if someone put together a reasonable plan for distributing some to schools or libraries on a nationwide basis, it probably could be done.  Figure at least 1500 copies (one per squadron) and let the squadron pick where they want it to go and provide the address to NHQ.   Would need to check with the school/library to make sure they would take a copy (maybe they have rules about taking magazines from groups).   

[Fireball]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

I'll ask him next time I see him. He's in my Squadron (the Lt Col is too).

[BillB]

Pylon you are correct. However the National Board last year raised the price for a subscription for non-members to the $25 figure. Prior to that, a member could purchase a subscription for $5 and have it mailed direct to the Library. In this County, there are six branch libraies, so $30 wasn't that much of a deal to have a subscription sent to each Branch library. But $150 a year puts the libraries out of the system. I have no idea what the National Boards thinking was to raise the price beyond what a Squadron might pay for a library subscription.

[tkelley004]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

The patches can be worn ONLY when assigned/attached to an Army unit (NOT TDY) (you will see this with combat weather, TACP, etc...) If he moves to an AF unit, the patches come off.

REF: AFI 26-2903, Table 5.2, Rules 5 - 8 and Note 11  http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-2903.pdf

[mikeylikey]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

The patches can be worn ONLY when assigned/attached to an Army unit (NOT TDY) (you will see this with combat weather, TACP, etc...) If he moves to an AF unit, the patches come off.

REF: AFI 26-2903, Table 5.2, Rules 5 - 8 and Note 11  http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-2903.pdf

That is what I thought.  I mean I have no gripe if he is wearing it, he surely earned it!  In fact, the AF should allow Combat Patches to be worn even after your service with the Army unit is over.  I would even go as far as saying with the shared history between the Army and AF, all Army patches, badges emblems and AF badges, patches emblems should be worn by both services.  Especially in the next few years with many posts and bases becoming joint facilities, the AF and Army work together more than any of the other services.

   

[Smokey]

I see page 21 has our new aircraft and page 39 has our new uniforms!!

[Fireball]

I see page 21 has our new aircraft and page 39 has our new uniforms!!

   And check out the three stooges on page 20. Oh wait, that's ME and my crew.

[afgeo4]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

The patches can be worn ONLY when assigned/attached to an Army unit (NOT TDY) (you will see this with combat weather, TACP, etc...) If he moves to an AF unit, the patches come off.

REF: AFI 26-2903, Table 5.2, Rules 5 - 8 and Note 11  http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-2903.pdf

That is what I thought.  I mean I have no gripe if he is wearing it, he surely earned it!  In fact, the AF should allow Combat Patches to be worn even after your service with the Army unit is over.  I would even go as far as saying with the shared history between the Army and AF, all Army patches, badges emblems and AF badges, patches emblems should be worn by both services.  Especially in the next few years with many posts and bases becoming joint facilities, the AF and Army work together more than any of the other services.

   

The Airmen attached to Army units are authorized to wear those patches on BDU, not ABU. There are NO patches allowed on the Airman Battle Uniform, no matter what branch.

[Fireball]

Ummm.......page 19 of the volunteer shows a CAP Lt Col and an AF NCO.  QUESTION, does the AF allow the wearing of Army Combat patches?  He is in AF BDU's, just thought the AF did not do that.  I swear I read that Army Unit Patches ARE NOT Worn by AF personnel???

He's a Combat Weatherman.  The patch belongs, more than likely to the Army Unit he is attached to.

The patches can be worn ONLY when assigned/attached to an Army unit (NOT TDY) (you will see this with combat weather, TACP, etc...) If he moves to an AF unit, the patches come off.

REF: AFI 26-2903, Table 5.2, Rules 5 - 8 and Note 11  http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-2903.pdf

That is what I thought.  I mean I have no gripe if he is wearing it, he surely earned it!  In fact, the AF should allow Combat Patches to be worn even after your service with the Army unit is over.  I would even go as far as saying with the shared history between the Army and AF, all Army patches, badges emblems and AF badges, patches emblems should be worn by both services.  Especially in the next few years with many posts and bases becoming joint facilities, the AF and Army work together more than any of the other services.

   

The Airmen attached to Army units are authorized to wear those patches on BDU, not ABU. There are NO patches allowed on the Airman Battle Uniform, no matter what branch.

In his current assignment, he is authorized. No more needs to be said about it.