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Started by Mister Johnny, May 18, 2008, 10:29:27 AM

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CadetProgramGuy

Quote from: SAR-EMT1 on May 27, 2008, 08:06:30 AM
However... if I as an Auxilliarist am on patrol with the Coast Guard, and we get shot at, I will grab the nearest weapon and return fire. (long shot but i can hope)

Which is why I could change my stance on this topic.

I get shot at, They're gonna get shot at....

RRLE

USCG Auxiliary Operations Policy Manual (OpsPolMan) 4.E.1.b. Prohibited Support

QuoteAuxiliarists are prohibited from conducting the following activities:
• Actual boarding of a boat for law enforcement purposes other than for language interpretation.
The carrying of firearms (by hand or holster) or any related law enforcement equipment (e.g., handcuffs, pepper spray, etc.) on their person.
• Investigating complaints of negligent operations or serving of subpoenas.
• Covert operations.

USCG Auxiliary Manual (AuxMan) 2.B.19. Support Missions for the Coast Guard

QuoteAuxiliarists shall not be vested with any titles or duties which imply or entail
law enforcement responsibilities nor shall they carry, handle, repair, or fire
weapons of any sort while assigned to Coast Guard operational missions or
Coast Guard Auxiliary activities.
This includes civilian or government
employed law enforcement personnel while acting as an Auxiliarist. A waiver
to this policy may be obtained for the purpose of utilizing qualified Auxiliarists
as range coaches. Waiver requests shall not be submitted by individual
Auxiliarists, but rather the operational commander who determines a bonafide
need.

So an Auxie on a CG boat cannot pick up a weapon and return fire if fired upon. You might be better off helping the wounded, running comms, passing ammo or just staying out of the way of the professionals as they deal with the problem.

AuxMan 5.Q. Weapons

QuoteWeapons, except those worn by certified law enforcement officers in accordance with Federal, State and local laws and regulations and required by their agency policy, may not be worn, carried, or held by any Auxiliarist or guest of the Auxiliary while attending an approved Auxiliary function, including regularly scheduled division, flotilla, or detachment meetings. This prohibition extends to those who have concealed weapons permits and those who may otherwise be authorized, but not required to wear weapons when not performing law enforcement duties (i.e., offduty law enforcement officers). This prohibition extends to periods immediately preceding and following Auxiliary functions (i.e., during the fellowship periods). Weapons are excluded at all times from Government facilities, buildings, property, and military installations. Certified law enforcement officers who are required by their agency policy to carry a weapon shall be subject to the policy of the facility they are entering and may be required to check the weapon or be denied entry.

SAR-EMT1

If Im under fire, Im going to return fire if a gun is availible. The Aux can decide what to
do with me later. However, I am an EMT first, and if somene on board is injured they become
my first priority.  I dont mean to sound insubordinate, but its really common sense to fight back.
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

isuhawkeye

the aux also has rules prohibiting auxiliarists from entering the water to preform a rescue.  this past season a coast guard vessel came across a boat in distress with a drowning subject in the water.  As the active duty coasties struggled to remove their gun belts the auxie dove in saving the victim.  the active duty coast guard recognized this volunteer with a medal. 

not to bad for violating the rules

Ill dig up the source later... I know someone will ask for it.