Draft CAPR 35-5

[RiverAux]

A draft of a proposed revision to CAPR 35-5 (Officer and NCO appointments and promotions) was posted on eservices for comment today: http://level2.cap.gov/documents/R035_005_draft.pdf

Nothing surprising.  Seems to contain mostly items approved by various national meetings lately. 

About the only thing really interesting was this in 1-5:

i. Changes to CAP Grade Structure. The Air Force has authority over the CAP grade structure. Requests for changes to the CAP General Officer Grade Structure must be approved by the Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Requests for changes to the CAP Grade Structure for Colonels and below will be approved by the CAP-USAF/CC.

My question would be just what falls under the term "grade structure"?  Just the names and relative levels of authority, or everything at all related to CAP grade including promotion criteria, initial appointment criteria, etc? 

So, those of you with your pet CAP rank schemes will probably have to talk the AF into accepting them.

[davedove]

This is a small, but important change (emphasis mine):

a. An approved CAPF 2, Request for Promotion Action, (or in the case of initial
appointments for chaplains, an approved CAPF 35), a copy of the member's eServices printout reflecting the new grade, or a properly annotated, current membership card issued by National Headquarters is the authority for eligible persons to wear officer grade insignia on the CAP uniform.

This used to state that your needed the CAPF 2 and the membership card before you could wear the grade.  Now, it's an "or" statement, plus you can also use an eservices printout.


Also interesting is that they've allowed advanced officer promotion for senior NCO's (E7 and up).

[RiverAux]

To clarify -- they're letting high level current or former NCOs advance to specified CAP Officer ranks, not advance within the NCO grade structure -- thats a different topic that has not reached consensus at the national level (apparently). 

[mikeylikey]

ummmm ya, that oath to be taken at each promotion??  I thought we were getting rid of "United States Civil Air Patrol"??

[Tubacap]

^second

[FW]

ummmm ya, that oath to be taken at each promotion??  I thought we were getting rid of "United States Civil Air Patrol"

It is a mistake.. the "U.S." will be removed in the final draft.

[mikeylikey]

ummmm ya, that oath to be taken at each promotion??  I thought we were getting rid of "United States Civil Air Patrol"

It is a mistake.. the "U.S." will be removed in the final draft.

Shall we place a wager? 

[ddelaney103]

My big problem is they seem to be willing to give grade to "chaplains" even though they don't meet the CAP/USAF standards for Chaplains.

Right now, our Chaplains are interchangeable with the AF because the approving standards are the same.  Are we moving towards "Chaplain Lite?"