I am changing my opinion about NOTF

[flyguy06]

I have always tried to keep an open mind when it comes to NOTF. But after reading this article this morning, I have to wonder where they get their information.

I am in the GA Army National Guard and I happened to meet the SDFCommander lastsummer. I asked him about COL Lateer and he nothing but positive things to say. He wasnt forced out of the SDF. It decided to leave because it was to taxing to be the Chief of staff of the SDF and a Wing Commander.

I uesd to want to be a corporate officer in CAP but nowadys its like being in politics. Everyone is in your business and half the time they are wrong. I mean how did they get this story less than 24 hours after the letter was sent?

Here is the article:

Georgia's Civil Air Patrol wing commander gives up post after less than 1-1/2 years
    The commander of the Civil Air Patrol's Georgia Wing is leaving that position after less than 1-1/2 years in office.
    There has been some controversy recently involving CAP Col. Lyle Letteer, including allegations that he had been "drummed out" of the Georgia State Defense Force for unspecified reasons.  A inquiry sent to the state defense force and to the office of the Georgia governor by NOTF on that matter has thus far failed to elicit any responses.
    In a letter to the members of the Georgia Wing, apparently sent yesterday by e-mail, Col. Letteer writes: "The Civil Air Patrol and CAP/USAF are very concerned about the safety
program and as such Brig. Gen. Courter has asked if I would consider again serving as the national safety officer.
    "Working with you for almost 1-1/2 years as the Georgia Wing commander, we have made great strides toward making Georgia Wing the leader in Southeast Region. We have garnered an impeccable relationship with the Georgia Emergency Management Agency (GEMA), signed a new MOU with them and have gained their respect as we have always been there when they called. I hope this relationship will continue to flourish.
    "We have also installed a communications/ logistics program which is second to none in all of CAP. We were the second in the nation to fully integrate the Wing Bankers Solution and to receive an unqualified audit. Next week we will receive our second audit and I expect the same unqualified audit result again.
    "You received an Excellent rating on this years SAR/EVAL, all due to the up-scaled ES training that has been accomplished by you this past year.
    "These are just a few of the many things that you have accomplished for the Georgia Wing.
    "I regret leaving before having completed the goals I have set here for Georgia Wing, however I will be leaving the wing in very capable hands. The interim Georgia Wing commander will be Lt. Col. Michael Crowe, the present Georgia Wing vice commander. I ask that you show him the same loyalty and dedication that you have shown me during my term."

[jeders]

I have always tried to keep an open mind when it comes to NOTF. But after reading this article this morning, I have to wonder where they get their information.

THat's funny, actually thinking that anything they post is worth reading.

[SoCalCAPOfficer]

While they get a lot of things wrong.  Remember this, they were right about Pineda, and many people here were unwilling to even entertain the idea that anything was wrong there.

[Al Sayre]

" A inquiry sent to the state defense force and to the office of the Georgia governor by NOTF on that matter has thus far failed to elicit any responses."  Gotta love these qualifiers...   

Does their inquiry warrant a response?  About like me saying: "It is rumored that Skip Munger eats worms.  An inquiry sent to NOTF on that matter has thus far failed to elicit any responses."

[mikeylikey]

I don't understand this thread.  Are we supposed to hate or like NotF?

Who cares about the GA wing Commander?  From reading what was sent out it seems like he wasn't doing is job and instead of humiliating him, Courter just moved him. 

Happens all the time in the business world and the military.  You jack something up, they don't fire you, they move you to a less "Hard" job.

[flyguy06]

Actually no. The Safety Officer wasnt doing his job and they wanted him to go and the GAWG Commander used to be the national Safety Officer and was put back into it..

And what do you mean "who cares about the GAWG Commander" I read on this site all the time about Wing CC's and I never say "Who cares about so and so Wing Commander" but I read about CAWG CC on here all the time. Just saw a thread about the COWG Commander. But nobody says "Who cares" whats up with that?

[lordmonar]

It's just a distortion of reality.

NOTF and CAPINSIGHTS have members who did not like the GAWG CC and if they can twist this promotion into a victory they will.

They all still have axes to grind.

[Chappie]

All I can add was that I met Col Letteer this past October while serving together on the NSC staff.  He is a real gentleman and an asset to CAP.  I know that the GAWG will miss his influence but as he resumes a role he previously (and effectively) held at National, I believe the organization will receive great benefit.

[SDF_Specialist]

I have always tried to keep an open mind when it comes to NOTF. But after reading this article this morning, I have to wonder where they get their information.

THat's funny, actually thinking that anything they post is worth reading.

I read it before I read the comics in the morning. I could always use a warm up laugh to get the day started. 

[flyguy06]

It's just a distortion of reality.

NOTF and CAPINSIGHTS have members who did not like the GAWG CC and if they can twist this promotion into a victory they will.

They all still have axes to grind.

Oh, ok. I didnt realize it ran so deep. I am not saying I like him or dislike him. I am just saying he wasnt forced out of the SDF

[LittleIronPilot]

I don't understand this thread.  Are we supposed to hate or like NotF?

Who cares about the GA wing Commander?  From reading what was sent out it seems like he wasn't doing is job and instead of humiliating him, Courter just moved him. 

Happens all the time in the business world and the military.  You jack something up, they don't fire you, they move you to a less "Hard" job.

How about *I* care, especially since I am in the GA Wing.

BTW...I have not received any email from him or anyone else in regards to this. Not that I am not saying it is not happening, but at least THIS GA Wing member heard of it first here.

[M.S.]

I'm not sure how anybody could have a high opinion of NOTF.   

They regularly rip off routine -- mostly positive -- stories about the military and CAP from news feeds, copying them directly without attributing source.  They claim to be about all the Armed Forces and Civil Air Patrol, too.... (not odd to you yet?). 

The only stories they write themselves are negative ones about Civil Air Patrol.

The stories they do write are always plagued with bad grammar, incorrect spelling, non-compliance with either the AP Stylebook nor The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage, terrible article structure, childish language and thinly veiled one-sided reporting that any first-year journalism student could see from a mile away.

As Pat mentioned above, they all have axes to grind against certain individuals.  Some of them behind NOTF were kicked out of CAP, if I recall correctly.  The fact that their negative rhetoric is directed only at certain groups and individuals should demonstrate that on its own.

Clearly this is not the work of a legitimate news source.  There are thousands of Blogs that have better crafted content than NOTF.  Ignore them, stop giving them unnecessary attention by posting their drivel here and do something productive with your time.

[SoCalCAPOfficer]

......... thinly veiled one-sided reporting that any first-year journalism student could see from a mile away.

Sort of like the New York Times and L.A. Times and most other news media in this country when it comes to the liberal agenda.

[Dragoon]

I believe the editor of NOTF was a former Wing employee.  He got fired.  He got angry.  He sued CAP.  I believe he lost.

And NOTF was born......

[Gunner C]

I'm sorry, but I just can't bring up in my pea-brain what the heck NOTF is.

[Gunner C]

Never mind - it just came to me.  :angel:

[RiverAux]

Even for all the stolen material and occassional anti-CAP rants I would probably still subscribe except for the fact that about 25% of the material isn't about the military at all.  He seems to throw in all sorts of un-related stuff for no apparent reason.  I looked at todays and he had something about Oprah campaigning for Obama for pete's sake.

[mikeylikey]

All he does is complie his RSS feeds.  Anyone can take 5 minutes, go to the DoD website, the army, navy, marine and AF website and get the same news. 

DON'T SUBSCRIBE to NotF.  Not worth wasting email space on!