October 20, 2020, 08:51:37 pm

Blue Winter Cap

Started by TheMeepMan, August 02, 2020, 05:37:04 pm

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TheMeepMan

Hey guys,

In CAPR 39-3, on page 90 it is mentioned;

"6.2.4. Blue Winter Cap. Cap will only be worn with a full-length outer garment, while
wearing the mess dress, semi-formal, service dress or service uniforms (Figure 6.13)."

Does anyone know where I could find one?

Thanks,
TheMeepMan
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NIN

Ebay. But they're awful.
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Capt Thompson

If you've never seen one, check out the picture at VG:

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-blue-cold-weather-cap?variant=19249786880054

One look at the picture should be enough to make you not want to every buy one.
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SarDragon

Where do you live?

I had a hat like that when I was in the Navy, and it was mostly too warm in Maine and northern Japan. Besides, it's you-ga-lee.
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TheMeepMan

Quote from: SarDragon on August 02, 2020, 07:05:22 pmWhere do you live?

I had a hat like that when I was in the Navy, and it was mostly too warm in Maine and northern Japan. Besides, it's you-ga-lee.

I live in NJ sir. And Capt Thompson, I saw it and I am very disappointed that the flaps aren't white :(.
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Mitchell 1969

Quote from: NIN on August 02, 2020, 05:52:11 pmEbay. But they're awful.
But authorized with mess dress. Which tempts me to buy one just because.


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Quote from: NIN on August 02, 2020, 05:52:11 pmEbay. But they're awful.
But authorized with mess dress. Which tempts me to buy one just because.


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SarDragon

Quote from: TheMeepMan on August 03, 2020, 02:25:08 am
Quote from: SarDragon on August 02, 2020, 07:05:22 pmWhere do you live?

I had a hat like that when I was in the Navy, and it was mostly too warm in Maine and northern Japan. Besides, it's you-ga-lee.

I live in NJ sir. And Capt Thompson, I saw it and I am very disappointed that the flaps aren't white :(.

I'm sorry about the NJ thing. I lived there for 13 years, and do not recall it ever being cold enough to need one of those hats.
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CAPJOE

Only place that I've found it was Vanguard for $65. No way I'm gonna pay that much for a winter cap.

Capt Thompson

Michigan is as cold as NJ and I've never seen one of these worn, even with Mess Dress. Even if it was only $10 I don't know many that would want it on their head.
Capt Matt Thompson
Deputy Commander for Cadets, Historian, Public Affairs Officer

Mitchell - 31 OCT 98 (#44670) Earhart - 1 OCT 00 (#11401)

TheMeepMan

I'll be honest, I really only wanted it because I've never seen anybody with it and I thought it would be kind of funny.
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Eclipse

Michigan's average winter temperature is lower then NJ.
https://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/jersey_city_nj/detroit_mi/climate
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/average-state-temperatures-in-winter.php

With that said, if you're wearing mess dress, you're going from a car to a banquet hall or
other building.  You're not outside long enough to need this unless your supply of atomic wedgies is low.



Capt Thompson

Quote from: TheMeepMan on August 03, 2020, 02:35:07 pmI'll be honest, I really only wanted it because I've never seen anybody with it and I thought it would be kind of funny.
Unless you find one used, it's an expensive hat to buy because it looks funny. Also note that you must wear it with a full length outer garment, so if you don't already have an all-weather coat or topcoat, you will need to acquire one of those too.
Capt Matt Thompson
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Mitchell - 31 OCT 98 (#44670) Earhart - 1 OCT 00 (#11401)

shuman14

Is the USAF Dress Cloak authorized for CAP members?

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Capt Thompson

I don't think it's authorized for actual USAF anymore.
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supertigerCH

Quote from: shuman14 on August 03, 2020, 10:57:15 pmIs the USAF Dress Cloak authorized for CAP members?




only if you wear a big "S" on your chest, along with it...

Eclipse

Quote from: supertigerCH on August 04, 2020, 12:38:39 amonly if you wear a big "S" on your chest, along with it...

That's CAP's symbol for "nope".



SarDragon

And that about wraps it up.

Buh bye.
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