Started by Holding Pattern, February 13, 2020, 06:13:21 pm
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Quote from: etodd on February 13, 2020, 06:24:06 pmI saw one person giving that advice, but most of us in the thread have given positive suggestions.
Quote from: Holding Pattern on February 13, 2020, 06:13:21 pmI believe this is not only bad advice, but is advice that will harm the organization as a whole as time goes on.
Quote from: Holding Pattern on February 13, 2020, 06:13:21 pmIf the member wanted to just wash their hands of it and quit, they wouldn't be asking for advice.
Quote from: Holding Pattern on February 13, 2020, 06:13:21 pmIf the member points out systemic problems in their AO, those in higher command positions might want to consider surprise inspections.
Quote from: GaryVC on February 14, 2020, 10:13:11 pmQuote from: Holding Pattern on February 13, 2020, 06:13:21 pmIf the member points out systemic problems in their AO, those in higher command positions might want to consider surprise inspections.I agree with most of this but not surprise inspections. Not a CAP concept. I would suggest a visit to the unit.
Quote from: Phil Hirons, Jr. on February 15, 2020, 06:32:14 pmThe proper term is no notice inspection. CAPR 20-3 (bold added)"5.6. All units, programs, and resources, at or below wing level, are subject to no noticeinspections, graded or ungraded, at the discretion of the BoG, CAP/CC, or CAP-USAF/CC." Note that the IGs can't do this themselves, the order comes from very on high.Like ES IGs don't self deploy.
Quote from: OldGuy on February 15, 2020, 09:42:07 pmAnd that IS a CAP thing.
Quote from: Eclipse on February 15, 2020, 11:04:51 pmQuote from: OldGuy on February 15, 2020, 09:42:07 pmAnd that IS a CAP thing. No, it's really not, and doesn't happen unless there is a problem so over the top as to be ridiculous to start with (like stealing 6-figures of pizza money).There is nothing...NO THING......that could be "going on at a unit" that would require the BOG or HEADCAP approval of a "no notice inspection".Cadet Abuse? You're suspending the perp and calling the police. That's not an inspection.Missing money? You think it's here in a drawer?Missing property? Same.Don't like the cut of the local jib? Good luck with inspecting that.Failed SUI? Already a defined process that literally requires "notice".I can't even imagine being in a situation, as a volunteer, where I would care at all if higher HQ stopped by to address concerns or conduct an "inspection". At the point where a disagreement became anything but a "whatever" situation, just disengage. BTDT as well.Baby Yoda save us CAP members can be self-aggrandizing sometimes, and talk about loving drama.
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