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chacharoo
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« on: December 31, 2018, 04:05:56 PM »

I have an old style, four button service dress for sale. Size 42L.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123569922719

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jeders
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 04:28:36 PM »

Ummm, it looks more like you have a knock off, and not a very good one. The material color looks wrong, the stitching looks wrong, and the buttons are the new style wing and star instead of the old style seal.
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chacharoo
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 04:46:22 PM »

The USAF has used a number of different shades of blue over the years, 39-1 even recognizes that as it says the pants and coat must match. As for the buttons, the “wing and star” design is authorized.

Mod Edit: I was trying to quote your post and accidentally modified it, I think I got it back to how it was; sorry.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 05:08:01 PM »

The whole thing just looks "off".
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Luis R. Ramos
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 05:27:36 PM »

Yeah, it's off. Does NOT look like the old style at all!


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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 05:46:15 PM »

The whole thing is just "off". The semi-contrasting stitching on the pockets is the one that stands out the most.

Also, senior members can not wear the old style service dress and have not been able to for almost 20 years.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2018, 07:45:08 PM »

The USAF has used a number of different shades of blue over the years

Yes they have, but they didn't manufacture the old style service coat in the shade that this one appears to be with such highly contrasting thread.

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39-1 even recognizes that as it says the pants and coat must match.

You are correct, they must match. What this means is that you must find old shade 1549(?) trousers to match the shade 1549 service coat.

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As for the buttons, the “wing and star” design is authorized.

The wing and star design was introduced, I believe, with the McPeak uniform in 1994. Prior to that, the service coat used the Air Force Seal buttons. In other words, the old-style service coat which is authorized for cadets to wear was never produced with the new-style buttons. What it looks like you have is actually not an old-style service coat but a shade 1620 (new style) Air Force Academy Cadet coat with its epaulet loops removed. The contrasting thread, terrible though it looks, is likely just a result of the flash on your camera.We can debate all day long about whether or not this coat is allowed to be worn by CAP cadets, and if anyone wants to start a separate thread for that, feel free to.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2018, 09:37:56 PM »

There are no shoulder loops on the coat.  This is a very poor knock off.


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