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Hawk200
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« on: October 16, 2018, 06:39:21 PM »

Was reading the page CISM at National and am a bit curious. I recall that there used to be some pretty advanced requirements. Anyone know what the current requirements are? The materials seem to be very similar to the Army's Resilience training. Thinking about getting into it.

Thoughts? Input?
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 06:43:00 PM »

Was reading the page CISM at National and am a bit curious. I recall that there used to be some pretty advanced requirements. Anyone know what the current requirements are? The materials seem to be very similar to the Army's Resilience training. Thinking about getting into it.

Thoughts? Input?

National CISM Team Leader, Lt Col Janisko, is an old buddy of mine and the real deal.

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Hawk200
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2018, 06:03:32 AM »

Was reading the page CISM at National and am a bit curious. I recall that there used to be some pretty advanced requirements. Anyone know what the current requirements are? The materials seem to be very similar to the Army's Resilience training. Thinking about getting into it.

Thoughts? Input?

National CISM Team Leader, Lt Col Janisko, is an old buddy of mine and the real deal.

Good to know. Might fire off an email to them, see what type of requirements there are. Got a few pans in the fire at the moment, so it may be a while before I would act on anything, but I'll get there.

Overall, I'm seeing more and more incidents convincing me that there should be more done for the benefits of our people. The mind is the hardest thing to treat, simply because related problems are harder to see.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2018, 09:47:36 AM »

The ICSF group crisis intervention course seems to be the ticket to ride around here, with the individual crisis intervention course as highly recommended follow-on training.

YMMV.


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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2018, 06:04:07 PM »

The ICSF group crisis intervention course seems to be the ticket to ride around here, with the individual crisis intervention course as highly recommended follow-on training.

YMMV.


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Is that fitting into the CISM (for CAP) program? If so, I'll probably look into it. Anyone know about any prereqs that might be necessary?

I'm concerned about people. Are these programs effective with actually helping people? If a program/seminar/training course isn't known to be effective, I'm not interested in it.
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Spaceman3750
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 06:42:59 PM »

The ICSF group crisis intervention course seems to be the ticket to ride around here, with the individual crisis intervention course as highly recommended follow-on training.

YMMV.


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Is that fitting into the CISM (for CAP) program? If so, I'll probably look into it. Anyone know about any prereqs that might be necessary?

I'm concerned about people. Are these programs effective with actually helping people? If a program/seminar/training course isn't known to be effective, I'm not interested in it.

I enjoyed the class, but Iím an IT guy not a mental health professional and I wasnít there to join the CISM team, I was there because I was the host commander and I had to show up to unlock the doors either way.

I think that some studies have shown CISM to be effective but it is still a contested topic among those who experience these types of incidents often, and in CAP.

In CAP, I have seen it manifest in several different ways and while Iím not a fan of all of them, as a leader itís a tool in the box (when conducted well) to help me make sure my people are taken care of following an incident.


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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2018, 11:29:56 AM »

I enjoyed the class, but Iím an IT guy not a mental health professional and I wasnít there to join the CISM team, I was there because I was the host commander and I had to show up to unlock the doors either way.

I think that some studies have shown CISM to be effective but it is still a contested topic among those who experience these types of incidents often, and in CAP.

In CAP, I have seen it manifest in several different ways and while Iím not a fan of all of them, as a leader itís a tool in the box (when conducted well) to help me make sure my people are taken care of following an incident.


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Yeah, sometimes we acquire tools that we never use. Sometimes, we lend out, or even give away, those tools to others. Having them is important, too.

Time will tell as to how things work out. I'm concerned about people in general, but the Army and CAP are the people I'm working with the most. Gotta work in your own backyard, you don't really know much about anyone elses.
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