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xray328
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« on: August 03, 2018, 05:17:09 PM »

Can a cadet earn the ranger tab outside of going to Hawk? Who can certify that training and is it documented somewhere?  What’s required above GTM3 for Ranger 3rd class?


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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2018, 05:33:51 PM »

Yes. Go to the HMRS page and look for Stan-Eval. There are testing sheets for each Ranger proficiency grade and contact info to get you specific answers.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 12:25:24 AM »

What are the two required “sanctioned ranger program activities”?

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/056b63_6fd6bb9ad41d454db230c8b169daceb0.pdf


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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2018, 12:27:24 PM »

The summer and winter ranger courses
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2018, 12:28:52 PM »

So you can’t earn the tab without attending one of their courses then?


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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2018, 04:16:01 PM »

Ranger-sanctioned activities basically need some approval by Stan-Eval. KYWG runs an in-state Ranger training program that awards Ranger 3rd Class. I’d start with them for more info.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 01:42:58 PM »

Ranger-sanctioned activities basically need some approval by Stan-Eval. KYWG runs an in-state Ranger training program that awards Ranger 3rd Class. I’d start with them for more info.

Many wings run a sanctioned Ranger training program, email staneval@capranger.org to see if anyone around you can and will be willing to set up a class.
I have gotten many to summer school with their R3 so they could come back R2 or Field Medic their first year. Good luck!
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 01:58:23 PM »

The summer and winter ranger courses

In Pennsylvania any of the HMRS activities lised on their calander count as sanctioned Ranger activities.  Most Wing oraganized activites outside of PA as "Ranger" trainnig count (though those I would verify with the HMRS stan/eval address before "counting it")

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 07:42:01 PM »

Ranger-sanctioned activities basically need some approval by Stan-Eval. KYWG runs an in-state Ranger training program that awards Ranger 3rd Class. I’d start with them for more info.

Many wings run a sanctioned Ranger training program, email staneval@capranger.org to see if anyone around you can and will be willing to set up a class.
I have gotten many to summer school with their R3 so they could come back R2 or Field Medic their first year. Good luck!
Now that would be nice. And KYWG is adjacent... Hmmmm.

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2018, 09:32:13 PM »

The summer and winter ranger courses

In Pennsylvania any of the HMRS activities lised on their calander count as sanctioned Ranger activities.  Most Wing oraganized activites outside of PA as "Ranger" trainnig count (though those I would verify with the HMRS stan/eval address before "counting it")

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So, our recent summer Encampment ran a week long (separate) advanced field medic course, Certified instructor, full purchase of training package, etc... Aside from the obvious benefit to the individuals, their units, and their communities (*ahem, foot stomp for PTC Sqdn.) should I brace myself now for a flood of requests to authorize tabs and rockers and other uniform stuff (which we don't recognize)?

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2018, 11:11:05 PM »

The summer and winter ranger courses

In Pennsylvania any of the HMRS activities lised on their calander count as sanctioned Ranger activities.  Most Wing oraganized activites outside of PA as "Ranger" trainnig count (though those I would verify with the HMRS stan/eval address before "counting it")

MK

So, our recent summer Encampment ran a week long (separate) advanced field medic course, Certified instructor, full purchase of training package, etc... Aside from the obvious benefit to the individuals, their units, and their communities (*ahem, foot stomp for PTC Sqdn.) should I brace myself now for a flood of requests to authorize tabs and rockers and other uniform stuff (which we don't recognize)?

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So what kind of certification did the graduates receive? And I'm not talking just CAP either.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2018, 06:43:44 AM »

The summer and winter ranger courses

In Pennsylvania any of the HMRS activities lised on their calander count as sanctioned Ranger activities.  Most Wing oraganized activites outside of PA as "Ranger" trainnig count (though those I would verify with the HMRS stan/eval address before "counting it")

MK

So, our recent summer Encampment ran a week long (separate) advanced field medic course, Certified instructor, full purchase of training package, etc... Aside from the obvious benefit to the individuals, their units, and their communities (*ahem, foot stomp for PTC Sqdn.) should I brace myself now for a flood of requests to authorize tabs and rockers and other uniform stuff (which we don't recognize)?

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So what kind of certification did the graduates receive? And I'm not talking just CAP either.


It was a CPR/BBP refresh coupled with WFA, same standards/texts as ALWG Wing ES School and NESA.

"Certification" is irrelevant, really, for anything beyond the training required for GTM3 self aid (since there is no such position as "Field Medic"). This really is an NCSA uniform thread, hence my question about the potential for this NCSA to start granting credit for outside work.

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2018, 02:48:20 PM »

Sorry I totally missed the question you posted in that.  Flood?  I assume not.  HMRS's program max's out at 25 students, and that's mostly about available time and student to instructor ratios; so I don't see a "flood".  You will always get a couple that try and argue separate pieces to produce a "workaround".  The "medic" rating from HRMS is only awarded for course/program completion which includes multiple elements of both a base certification and additional SAR relevancy; including an end of course written and practical examination.  There closest to and 'equivalency" program is a Bridge program they occasionally run.  This takes members that hold and existing pro level certification (EMT, Paramedic, RN, MD etc) and teaches them the basic SAR and Wilderness content then they participate in a practical field exercise supporting a weekend activity as monitored candidates followed up with the and same EOC testing requirements for the full course to award the HMRS Medic Rating. There is no other way currently to receive the Field Medic Award than those 2 options (Full week course or bridge program)
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2019, 12:06:30 PM »

I know they run a course at Fort Benning, GA that awards graduates a Ranger tab. That's where I earned mine at least. Kind of an easy course though, you might want to stick with HMRS if you want quality training.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2019, 08:36:37 PM »

I know they run a course at Fort Benning, GA that awards graduates a Ranger tab. That's where I earned mine at least. Kind of an easy course though, you might want to stick with HMRS if you want quality training.

I see what you did there...
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2019, 11:32:29 PM »

I know they run a course at Fort Benning, GA that awards graduates a Ranger tab. That's where I earned mine at least. Kind of an easy course though, you might want to stick with HMRS if you want quality training.
So if you go to Hawk in the winter can you sew the tab on with white thread?
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