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xray328
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« on: March 01, 2018, 12:15:34 PM »

Has anyone here been to Canada with IACE?  How did you like it?
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capmaj
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 01:16:31 PM »

They do a great job! It rotates between the eastern and western provinces, but I believe this year is in the east. That would be the Ontario/Montreal/Quebec City areas.

They offer lots of tours and provide full-size buses for transportation. An added advantage is the fact that we obviously share a common language.

In the past, they have had tours of their space center, aviation museums, white-water rafting, Niagra Falls, National capital building, etc.
 
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Ned
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 02:48:51 PM »

They do a great job! [This year includes]  . . .Montreal/Quebec City areas.

 An added advantage is the fact that we obviously share a common language.


Not as much as you might think in Quebec.  I had to deliver a speech to the Air Cadet League General Assembly in Montreal once.  I had to give the speech in French.  They were very kind.

That said, IACE in Canada is very well-regarded!  They work extra-hard to make it a terrific experience.  I'd love to go some time.

Ned Lee
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MSG Mac
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 03:23:20 PM »

Policy used to be, and I hope it's still in effect, that if selected for Canada, the 5 year limit on IACE is waived, and you can reapply again in a later year.
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GaryVC
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 05:00:31 PM »

Weren't there something like 25 locations years ago (1960s). I note only 10 in the 2018 Ambassador's Guide. What happened to the rest?
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Lance
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2018, 10:17:02 PM »

My wife was an escort to Canada in the mid-1980's.  The primary had turned it down because it was so close.  Ruth accepted even though we lived about 100 miles from western Canadian provinces.  She took her group to the eastern provinces and had a terrific time.  A couple of years later she was the escort for a combined group of US and Hong Kong cadets to Great Britain.  A few years later she was set to escort a group to Hong Kong but wound up pregnant and stayed home.  Ruth was also eventually a Colonel and the 1987 National SM of the Year so she was well qualified. 

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 11:17:17 PM »

Weren't there something like 25 locations years ago (1960s). I note only 10 in the 2018 Ambassador's Guide. What happened to the rest?

I think there have been something like 40 countries involved over the years.

When it started, the deal was that other countries would be responsible for getting cadets to their exchange countries, then the hosts would handle things from there. That evolved to the European countries getting their cadets to Rhein-Main AB in Germany and picking up cadets from there.

A lot of the travel was in USAF transports. I know guys who flew to New Zealand in RNZAF C-130’s, replacing NZ ATC Cadets who flew to the US. Then they’d fly the NZ cadets back and pick up the CAP cadets. (RNZAF was able to sync that with maintenance at Lockheed in California).

It all changed when USAF started losing AVGAS fueled transports and closing bases. IACE continued, but travel was in scheduled carriers. I believe USAF May have paid for tickets for both US and foreign cadets.

When countries were told that they had to pick up costs for their own cadets, a lot of them dropped out or cut back. Also, political changes caused drop outs. IACE went from a four week activity to three weeks, then two weeks.

I was fortunate to go twice as a cadet, New Zealand in 1971 and Korea in 1973. Both trips were via commercial carriers and both trips were for 22 days.


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xray328
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 01:32:18 AM »

Policy used to be, and I hope it's still in effect, that if selected for Canada, the 5 year limit on IACE is waived, and you can reapply again in a later year.


Hmmm, I didn’t see that on the application page.  It does say that one of the requirements to apply is that you haven’t attended in the past.


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kwe1009
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 11:48:30 AM »

Policy used to be, and I hope it's still in effect, that if selected for Canada, the 5 year limit on IACE is waived, and you can reapply again in a later year.

They got rid of that policy a couple of years ago unfortunately.
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Lance
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2018, 12:31:06 PM »

Policy used to be, and I hope it's still in effect, that if selected for Canada, the 5 year limit on IACE is waived, and you can reapply again in a later year.

They got rid of that policy a couple of years ago unfortunately.

I double checked my escort application and instructions from 1979 and back then prior escorts could reapply with a lower priority than new qualified applicants.  In the 80's for my wife, Ruth, it was still the same policy.  I recall a conversation she had with NHQ that because she had bailed them out of a tight spot when she accepted the Canada escort slot (on short notice) they were flexible and just two years later sent her to her first choice - Great Britain.  Two years later NHQ initiated the conversation by asking her to apply again so they could send her as an escort to Hong Kong.  Sadly, for her, unknown at the time by NHQ, she was already along with our daughter and she decided to stay home. 

Paper qualified escorts have not always been successful and NHQ needs (or back in my tenure they did) the flexibility to be very comfortable with who they choose as escorts.  I could relate at least three escort situations where they embarrassed themselves and CAP while on escort duty.

Sorry folks but even though I have lingered in  the shadows on CAP Talk for years I don't post much because I have to fight the urge to write about "back in my day" and that can get old.   Now that I am completely retired and remember 50 years ago better than yesterday the urge is even stronger!
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Dr. Lance J. Edwards, Colonel, CAP, Retired
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Mitchell, 1969, Earhart, 1970, Eaker, 1973
IACE, 1972 & 1979, Wilson #394, DSM, 1989
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