Quote from: abdsp51 on September 01, 2017, 07:30:31 PMQuote from: Mordecai on September 01, 2017, 06:31:26 PMAs for enforcement, that is easy. Require every member wearing the AF uniform to be put in the sky once a year. Pilots will take weight/balance notes at that point and by doing so also verify that the member is compliant weight wise.Good luck with that. I have no desire to be in a light aircraft and I sure as heck would fight any idea to put me in one just to find out if I am within H/W.You're part of the exempt classified unit, so you're good.
Quote from: Mordecai on September 01, 2017, 06:31:26 PMAs for enforcement, that is easy. Require every member wearing the AF uniform to be put in the sky once a year. Pilots will take weight/balance notes at that point and by doing so also verify that the member is compliant weight wise.Good luck with that. I have no desire to be in a light aircraft and I sure as heck would fight any idea to put me in one just to find out if I am within H/W.
As for enforcement, that is easy. Require every member wearing the AF uniform to be put in the sky once a year. Pilots will take weight/balance notes at that point and by doing so also verify that the member is compliant weight wise.
While sitting around awhile at the last Eval, waiting for my flight release, I sat in a corner, watching the dozens of folks milling around, in and out getting their work done. When it comes to uniforms, my general observation that day was the folks in polos seemed more casual, at ease, and happy. The others just seemed so tense. I dunno. Just something I've noticed.
Quote from: Brit_in_CAP on September 01, 2017, 05:51:43 PM+1. Having our own uniform was an opportunity missed. Missed in what way? I'm genuinely curious how further divorcing ourselves from the organization we're the auxiliary of is a missed opportunity.
+1. Having our own uniform was an opportunity missed.
For all the talk about "parent organization," the reality is that more CAP members work with and relate to other CAP members than they do to USAF members. That is especially true when it comes time to climb into utility type uniforms. Getting them into one WAS a lost opportunity.
I wonder how they'll look with black boots.
So in your honest opinion, should I not purchase my cadet a set of ABUs? He has BDUs and Blues as provided by his Squadron. But he needs another set apparently for encampment and they don’t have anything in his size. But more importantly he WANTS the ABUs as he perceives them as more important. Most of his staff wears them so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Gotta have ‘em. I can invest ~$50 and get him his ABUs but I do hate to do that if another switch is imminent. What say you? Don’t worry about more changes for a 13 year old that will outgrow what he has now anyways? Seems like to me if he got a year out of them I’d be fine with that. Think we have that long before more changes trickle down?
The Air Force is not pushing for us to wear their uniforms; we are pushing to continue wearing Air Force-style uniforms even though we know many of our members are unable to do so, yet their contributions to CAP and the Air Force are significant.Wanting a single uniform that all our members can wear is not "divorcing ourselves" from the Air Force; it's actually acknowledging that we are a single organization and that, while we are the Air Force Auxiliary, we're not service members, but volunteer civilians performing a non-combat role for the Air Force.
So in your honest opinion, should I not purchase my cadet a set of ABUs? He has BDUs and Blues as provided by his Squadron. But he needs another set apparently for encampment and they don’t have anything in his size. But more importantly he WANTS the ABUs as he perceives them as more important. Most of his staff wears them so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Gotta have ‘em.
I can invest ~$50 and get him his ABUs but I do hate to do that if another switch is imminent. What say you? Don’t worry about more changes for a 13 year old that will outgrow what he has now anyways? Seems like to me if he got a year out of them I’d be fine with that. Think we have that long before more changes trickle down?
Quote from: TX CAP Mom on September 28, 2017, 05:23:27 AMSo in your honest opinion, should I not purchase my cadet a set of ABUs? He has BDUs and Blues as provided by his Squadron. But he needs another set apparently for encampment and they don’t have anything in his size. But more importantly he WANTS the ABUs as he perceives them as more important. Most of his staff wears them so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Gotta have ‘em. I can invest ~$50 and get him his ABUs but I do hate to do that if another switch is imminent. What say you? Don’t worry about more changes for a 13 year old that will outgrow what he has now anyways? Seems like to me if he got a year out of them I’d be fine with that. Think we have that long before more changes trickle down?Concur with Spam. If it happens at all, late 2020s is the absolute earliest I could ever envision it with CAP (ABUs aren't even phased in completely until 2021), and I would probably say 2030s is the more reasonable estimate. But, as said earlier, this is all speculation and a whole lot of dominoes have to fall for this to even be a possibility for CAP.But I swear, if in 2030 or whenever we get OCPs, we're still stuck with black boots, I'm burning my membership card.
Quote from: TX CAP Mom on September 28, 2017, 05:23:27 AMSo in your honest opinion, should I not purchase my cadet a set of ABUs? He has BDUs and Blues as provided by his Squadron. But he needs another set apparently for encampment and they don’t have anything in his size. But more importantly he WANTS the ABUs as he perceives them as more important. Most of his staff wears them so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Gotta have ‘em. QuoteIf he has BDUs, why waste the money until he actually needs another uniform - if he goes to encampment, and they require more then one set, that's a good "excuse", but beyond that, neither is more "important" then the other.I can invest ~$50 and get him his ABUs but I do hate to do that if another switch is imminent. What say you? Don’t worry about more changes for a 13 year old that will outgrow what he has now anyways? Seems like to me if he got a year out of them I’d be fine with that. Think we have that long before more changes trickle down?You're more likely looking at closer to $100+. That's assuming you do your own sewing.Remember you in addition to the shirt and pants, you need new t-shirts, belt, hat, and all new insignia / tapes.He can wear woodland outerwear until June, but after that will need that as well.
If he has BDUs, why waste the money until he actually needs another uniform - if he goes to encampment, and they require more then one set, that's a good "excuse", but beyond that, neither is more "important" then the other.I can invest ~$50 and get him his ABUs but I do hate to do that if another switch is imminent. What say you? Don’t worry about more changes for a 13 year old that will outgrow what he has now anyways? Seems like to me if he got a year out of them I’d be fine with that. Think we have that long before more changes trickle down?
Hi, Mom (*grins)No, don't worry.I would urge you to go ahead and purchase the ABUs, and kit him out accordingly. This thread is interesting but entirely speculative, based on local uniform changes for personnel on the other side of the world, not your guy. Stick with the ABUs, and be sure to get them nice and big and baggy for him to grow into. It will be the 2020s or later before CAP ever goes this route and even then we'll have a two to three year phase in period (as we do now with ABUs).V/rSpam
Funny, but the Air Force side of the house — and I don't mean CAP-USAF, but further up the food chain — has been asking why CAP has dissed the "auxiliary" status and nomenclature. Seems Ma Blue wants to draw us closer. I have no problem with that.