It seems that going through Mission Scanner training could be a way to at least get some training and air time in a light airplane. However, with them being a cadet, the CPP might make that tricker? It seems like you could have a single cadet training as MS in back seat if 2 seniors were in the front. It sounds like you can't have a Senior in the back and a cadet up front though (unless the parent exception can be applied there), so possibly no front seat experience of any kind this way. I understand it to be that there's absolutely no control manipulation is this scenario either.
A12 has a transport profile. The pilot is at least a TMP and ballast is allowed.BTW, the reg doesn't make a distinction between an MP on a SAR profile and an MP boring holes in the sky.
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on February 03, 2017, 11:42:47 PMA12 has a transport profile. The pilot is at least a TMP and ballast is allowed.BTW, the reg doesn't make a distinction between an MP on a SAR profile and an MP boring holes in the sky.Correct, but the nuance here is a situation where a non-MP / non-O-ride pilot building hours wanted to takea cadet for a dino-burning hole. I think it would be allowed, 1-1, but only if the pilot is a CAP instructor pilot.
Thanks for all the info. It's kind of complicated as we don't have any nearby airplanes anymore in our Wing, and as a result o-flights haven't been happening locally like they should (having to meet transport distance minimums provides some challenges). Some cadets have been able to get o-flights at encampment, but others either have not been able to go, or have gone as staff and therefore not been eligible for an o-flight.
If you have a certified flight instructor, they can instruct in the civil air patrol airplane, but the member must pay the maintenance cost and fuel. Instructor could not be reimbursed.
If you have a certified flight instructor, they can instruct in the civil air patrol airplane, but the member must pay the maintenance cost and fuel. Instructor could not be reimbursed.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Also, IMHO, expecting cadets and parents to drive 1-2 hours to meet a plane when that same plane can come to them in 15 minutes isn't acceptable, even if it makes your o-ride coordinator's life "easier". Their time isn't less valuable just because itmakes the wing's spreadsheet easier to complete, and that sort of thing is guaranteed to be a retention factor.In addition to that, CAP planes can land at >any< airport (or at least most), including grass strips. Just because a plane isn't based there, doesn't mean it wouldn't work better for everyone.
New York City, anyone? My cadets have to travel to Farmingdale, about 30 to 45 minutes. Expect / ask our pilots to land at JFK or LaGuardia airports...Time on the ground waiting for departure clearance would be like 2 hours! And taking off or landing in the wake of those big boys...?The reaction will be...
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 04, 2017, 10:02:00 PMNew York City, anyone? My cadets have to travel to Farmingdale, about 30 to 45 minutes. Expect / ask our pilots to land at JFK or LaGuardia airports...Time on the ground waiting for departure clearance would be like 2 hours! And taking off or landing in the wake of those big boys...?The reaction will be... How about Westchester airport, or Teterboro?
Our O-Flight requirements definitely include a paved strip, and IIRC, we don't have any operations approved for grass strips currently. I'll have to check on that again, maybe flight instruction from a grass strip is OK? I'm thinking not though. I think my brain is full, information is falling out as fast as it's going in anymore. Sigh.
Alaric, Thrawn-Those places are farther than Farmingdale Apt...
"Our"? Meaning your wing's?My wing has no issue with grass strips and in fact runs a bivouac every year focused at one, including o-rides for cadets camping there as well.