Authorized BDU belts?

[ranger0305]

Hello everyone i was having a discussion with some fellow cadets recently and we got on the subject BDU belts. According to 39-1 the authorized belts are.....

"5.1.1.6. Belt and Buckle. Dark blue or black, woven cotton web, solid or woven elastic belt
with black metal tip end and plain (open faced) black buckle. Black tip may extend up to one inch beyond
the buckle, facing to the wearer's left (men) or facing wearer's right or left (women). A black, one piece
rigger style, nylon, web belt (1 ¾ inch wide) may be worn."


So what exactly is a "Rigger style" belt? And what is the difference from a duty belt? My quick google search turned up a few results but not enough info to determine the differences. I have a 5.11 tactical belt (http://www.galls.com/511-tactical-tdu-belt-with-175-inch-plastic-buckle?cexid=12&casid=5#.VUkbHvlVhBc) that i am wondering if is within regs as a couple of us thought it was. It seems like it would be allowed but none of us were sure so i thought i would ask you guys.

Thanks in advance,
Ranger.

[Abby.L]

I would call that a rigger's belt. It's similar to the one's worn on ABU's, which are also rigger's belts just a different color. So I think you could get away with that.

I just never realized that was a change in regs. Guess I've been away longer than I like to admit...

[ProdigalJim]

"Semper Vigilantes"

[Holding Pattern]

"Semper Vigilantes"

Oh good, I wasn't the only one concerned about that.

[MIKE]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/3-new-us-military-surplus-riggers-belts-black?a=743173

Happens to be the DSCP issue item.  Have one for ODU wear, works fine for me... but have heard that they tend to slip for some people.

See also:

http://www.specopsbrand.com/better-bdu-belt-924.html

Used to be offered in USAF blue.  No longer available.

[Airplane girl]

Well, since vigilans comes from vigilans, vigilantis in Latin, it's a 3rd declension adjective. And in the third declension, vigilantes is a form of vigilans. It means the same thing as vigilans, but plural. I'm not sure how semper vigilans could be plural, though. Is there more than one vigilant?

[LSThiker]

I would call that a rigger's belt. It's similar to the one's worn on ABU's, which are also rigger's belts just a different color. So I think you could get away with that.

I just never realized that was a change in regs. Guess I've been away longer than I like to admit...

No.  The rigger belt was not authorized until this go around in the CAPM 39-1.  It was not allowed previously.  So not too long.

[Abby.L]

I would call that a rigger's belt. It's similar to the one's worn on ABU's, which are also rigger's belts just a different color. So I think you could get away with that.

I just never realized that was a change in regs. Guess I've been away longer than I like to admit...

No.  The rigger belt was not authorized until this go around in the CAPM 39-1.  It was not allowed previously.  So not too long.

Yea, that's why I was confused. I probably could've recited the old 39-1 in my sleep, but the new one came out shortly before I left, so I never got around to looking at the finer points, though I did take my flag patch off and put my NBB patch there, admittedly. 

[ranger0305]

So my belt would be authorized to wear?
Also i have some great excuses as to why i misspelled "Semper Vigilans" if you want to here them. but mainly its because i was in the middle of trying to remember, when i had to leave quickly and didn't mean to save it.

Embarrassedly,
Ranger.

[SPS]

Well, since vigilans comes from vigilans, vigilantis in Latin, it's a 3rd declension adjective. And in the third declension, vigilantes is a form of vigilans. It means the same thing as vigilans, but plural. I'm not sure how semper vigilans could be plural, though. Is there more than one vigilant?

It is not meant to be plural but singular; options are 'semper vigil' or 'semper vigilans', not vigilantes. As you may know, C/TSgt, some CAP members use the motto on their sign offs.

[Spam]

Well, since vigilans comes from vigilans, vigilantis in Latin, it's a 3rd declension adjective. And in the third declension, vigilantes is a form of vigilans. It means the same thing as vigilans, but plural. I'm not sure how semper vigilans could be plural, though. Is there more than one vigilant?

It is not meant to be plural but singular; options are 'semper vigil' or 'semper vigilans', not vigilantes. As you may know, C/TSgt, some CAP members use the motto on their sign offs.

Don't sweat the small stuff on spelling fails.  It could always be worse:

http://www.outofregs.com/index.php?page=archives&id=985

V/R,
Spam

[Luis R. Ramos]

Was that a tattoo?   Ouch!

What is worse, a misspelled tattoo of a service motto or name; or a misspelled significant other like a man whose wife's name is Julia getting Julio instead...??!!!