CAP Constitution and Bylaws (1 Oct 2012, Amended 22 Jan 2015)

Started by Eclipse, January 22, 2015, 10:51:14 PM

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Eclipse

Amended to add the "National Executive Officer" as restricted from serving as BoG Member at Large, and changes the CSAG and CCouncil
to include that title as well.

Allows for the National Commander to designate a direct report for "special" and Overseas units.

http://capmembers.com/media/cms/CAP_Constitution_Bylaws_4BC09E935985F.pdf

"That Others May Zoom"

JC004


Johnny Yuma

Whatever.

We no longer have a Constitution and Bylaws, we have 27 edicts that supposedly run this organization that can change at the whim of a a de facto junta. This organization lost its constitution and Bylaws when the National Board and NEC were disbanded.
"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

lordmonar

Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 26, 2015, 02:57:38 AM
Whatever.

We no longer have a Constitution and Bylaws, we have 27 edicts that supposedly run this organization that can change at the whim of a a de facto junta. This organization lost its constitution and Bylaws when the National Board and NEC were disbanded.
Hate a little?
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Johnny Yuma

No, being truthful.

When the constitution that outlines how your organization is run can be changed by a simple majority vote from a committee of eleven at pretty much any time then you really don't have one.
"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

PHall


NCRblues

To get back on track for a few seconds...

Maybe I'm lost but can anyone explain what the "national executive officer" is?

I have not slept in a little over 27 hours so maybe I'm out of it, but that title is new to me.
In god we trust, all others we run through NCIC

lordmonar

Used to be Chief of Staff?

I know that a rewrite of 20-1 is in the works....seems like they are just getting their terms aligned.

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

JC004

Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 26, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
No, being truthful.

When the constitution that outlines how your organization is run can be changed by a simple majority vote from a committee of eleven at pretty much any time then you really don't have one.

That's a pretty normal board size.  CAP is the only large non-profit I ever saw that had 3 governing bodies...

Johnny Yuma

Quote from: PHall on January 26, 2015, 11:32:16 PM
So Johnny, you're still a member why?

For the same reason most everyone else is. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy the Kabuki theater that it's become at the top, however.
"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

jeders

Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 27, 2015, 02:04:03 AM
Quote from: PHall on January 26, 2015, 11:32:16 PM
So Johnny, you're still a member why?

For the same reason most everyone else is. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy the Kabuki theater that it's become at the top, however.

Honestly, I'd say our current model is waaaay less kabuki than the old one.
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

MSG Mac

Quote from: JC004 on January 27, 2015, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 26, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
No, being truthful.

When the constitution that outlines how your organization is run can be changed by a simple majority vote from a committee of eleven at pretty much any time then you really don't have one.

That's a pretty normal board size.  CAP is the only large non-profit I ever saw that had 3 governing bodies...

Board of Governors is the only governing body. CSAG and CC are only there to run the sub-divisions (Region and Wing). No different than other Corporations that have Division, Region, and Local management.
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

JeffDG

Quote from: MSG Mac on January 27, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: JC004 on January 27, 2015, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 26, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
No, being truthful.

When the constitution that outlines how your organization is run can be changed by a simple majority vote from a committee of eleven at pretty much any time then you really don't have one.

That's a pretty normal board size.  CAP is the only large non-profit I ever saw that had 3 governing bodies...

Board of Governors is the only governing body. CSAG and CC are only there to run the sub-divisions (Region and Wing). No different than other Corporations that have Division, Region, and Local management.

I'd give CSAG a bit of credit as a partial governing body, in that they have exclusive authority to elect 4 of the 11 seats on the BoG.

JC004

Quote from: MSG Mac on January 27, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: JC004 on January 27, 2015, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 26, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
No, being truthful.

When the constitution that outlines how your organization is run can be changed by a simple majority vote from a committee of eleven at pretty much any time then you really don't have one.

That's a pretty normal board size.  CAP is the only large non-profit I ever saw that had 3 governing bodies...

Board of Governors is the only governing body. CSAG and CC are only there to run the sub-divisions (Region and Wing). No different than other Corporations that have Division, Region, and Local management.

I said "had."  The conflicting roles and tug of war made the BoardSource stuff necessary. 

FW

Quote from: NCRblues on January 27, 2015, 12:32:55 AM
To get back on track for a few seconds...

Maybe I'm lost but can anyone explain what the "national executive officer" is?

I have not slept in a little over 27 hours so maybe I'm out of it, but that title is new to me.

The Chief Executive Officer of CAP is the National Commander, however the National Executive Officer is a new position which has the same authority (as I seem to see it) as the old National Chief of Staff.
Why the change in name is beyond me, however in the military, the Chief of Staff is a title that is above all other military positions... Just sayn' :angel:

Brad

Had the pleasure to meet the National Executive Officer at Wing/Region Conference today ironically enough.

That said, changing the title from Chief of Staff to Executive Officer comes as no surprise, as that is in alignment with the USAF, plus I've often seen the term used at Encampment for the Cadet in charge of the Cadet support staff.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_officer:

QuoteThe United States Air Force (USAF), in a manner similar to the U.S. Army, the term "executive officer" (XO) in the U.S. Air Force is not a command/second-in-command position. Instead, it is used to designate a company grade officer or junior field grade officer who serves as a staff administrative assistant to a senior officer, typically a commander at the squadron level or above (e.g., squadron, group, wing, numbered air force, major command). In the other uniformed services, this position may be called an aide, an "executive assistant" or an adjutant. Like the Army, while experience gained as an XO is highly beneficial for an Air Force officer's professional development, it is not necessarily a prerequisite for a command position. For officers holding second-in-command positions, the USAF uses the titles of "vice commander" (CV), or "deputy commander" (CD) for an officer who serves as the second-in-command for an organization above squadron level. For a squadron, the second-in-command is typically termed the "director of operations" or "operations officer" (DO).

There are also officers assigned as "aide-de-camp" to general officers in the U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force or U.S. Marine Corps, or as "flag aide" or "flag lieutenant" to flag officers (i.e., rear admiral and above) in the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard. The rank of an executive officer in the U.S. Army or U.S. Air Force can vary from lieutenant or captain working for a colonel to a colonel (serving as the executive officer to the Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

A unique application of the term is executive officer to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, and commander, United States European Command. This position is typically held by a brigadier general or rear admiral (LH) and is drawn from all of the armed services. The duties involve serving as both an "executive assistant" to Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) and also includes command responsibilities for the U.S. military community at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in Belgium.
Brad Lee
Maj, CAP
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Communications
Mid-Atlantic Region
K4RMN

Storm Chaser

Quote from: Brad on February 01, 2015, 01:45:27 AM
Had the pleasure to meet the National Executive Officer at Wing/Region Conference today ironically enough.

That said, changing the title from Chief of Staff to Executive Officer comes as no surprise, as that is in alignment with the USAF, plus I've often seen the term used at Encampment for the Cadet in charge of the Cadet support staff.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_officer:

QuoteThe United States Air Force (USAF), in a manner similar to the U.S. Army, the term "executive officer" (XO) in the U.S. Air Force is not a command/second-in-command position. Instead, it is used to designate a company grade officer or junior field grade officer who serves as a staff administrative assistant to a senior officer, typically a commander at the squadron level or above (e.g., squadron, group, wing, numbered air force, major command). In the other uniformed services, this position may be called an aide, an "executive assistant" or an adjutant. Like the Army, while experience gained as an XO is highly beneficial for an Air Force officer's professional development, it is not necessarily a prerequisite for a command position. For officers holding second-in-command positions, the USAF uses the titles of "vice commander" (CV), or "deputy commander" (CD) for an officer who serves as the second-in-command for an organization above squadron level. For a squadron, the second-in-command is typically termed the "director of operations" or "operations officer" (DO).

There are also officers assigned as "aide-de-camp" to general officers in the U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force or U.S. Marine Corps, or as "flag aide" or "flag lieutenant" to flag officers (i.e., rear admiral and above) in the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard. The rank of an executive officer in the U.S. Army or U.S. Air Force can vary from lieutenant or captain working for a colonel to a colonel (serving as the executive officer to the Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

A unique application of the term is executive officer to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, and commander, United States European Command. This position is typically held by a brigadier general or rear admiral (LH) and is drawn from all of the armed services. The duties involve serving as both an "executive assistant" to Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) and also includes command responsibilities for the U.S. military community at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in Belgium.

In the Air Force, Executive Officers are usually junior officers and have mostly administrative functions. They're nowhere analogous to a Chief of Staff, which as the title implies, is responsible for managing the staff.

Eclipse

Quote from: Brad on February 01, 2015, 01:45:27 AMI've often seen the term used at Encampment for the Cadet in charge of the Cadet support staff.

Now transitioning as an option to Operations Support Officer, which is much more in line with the actual duties.

XO's usually have command authority in the absence of the commander, and Ops officer doesn't.

"That Others May Zoom"

NCRblues

That deck chair looks really great on the other side of the ship. Man that iceberg is close...
In god we trust, all others we run through NCIC

Storm Chaser

Quote from: Eclipse on February 01, 2015, 02:14:53 AM
Quote from: Brad on February 01, 2015, 01:45:27 AMI've often seen the term used at Encampment for the Cadet in charge of the Cadet support staff.

Now transitioning as an option to Operations Support Officer, which is much more in line with the actual duties.

XO's usually have command authority in the absence of the commander, and Ops officer doesn't.

Air Force operational squadrons don't have deputy commanders, only groups do. That's why the operations officer is second in command. Someone has to be.