ISR Channel 10 & 11 disallowed

[Eclipse]

I viewed the messages, and made a mental note that mine had been locked on the same channel
since they were issued - never saw a need to change them, but it is kind of amusing to see some
comm people getting apoplectic about "LIFE!" and "MISSIONS!" that could be impacted because
those channels have been restricted.

Any particularly interesting reason why?  Maybe the drive through lanes at Indian Casinos use the same freqs?

[a2capt]

LOL, reminds me of a McDonalds across the street from the main gate to Miramar. In the late 1980s we discovered that CB channel 25 would clobber the drive through communication.

Naturally .. kids will be kids .. ;-)

Every time we were in the area we made sure to have fun with people ordering by keying up at just the right time to block out the burger name, or such.

[w7sar]

FYI...

I don't think the comm people are in too much of a tizzy here.  It's kind of insulting to imply such is happening.  I believe, as announced, those two channels are being use by other federal assets.  It's not a big deal.  The big deal is that CAP remains authorized to use ISR radios on 12 of the 14 channels.  I see no comm chatter about the world ending because of the restriction.  It's about being good users and following the rules assigned to frequencies used by or shared with others.

Just an observation.

[a2capt]

Maybe in your AOR, but I have had dealings with comm people who get in a tizzy simplistic things, like the world is coming to an end. But I also realize that not everyone is like that.

Times that make you think, why am I here? This is easier if I just whip out the phone and call someone..
...

[wuzafuzz]

The only reaction I've seen from comm folks is passing the message along to others.  I told my comm guys to label our ISR's to remind people channels 10 & 11 are verboten.  No big deal.  Most labels detach or quickly become unreadable but my squadron comm guy makes great labels with a Zebra printer.  Those things rock.

While I won't speak for others, I would love to see ISR's go away.  During my time as a DC the ISR's accounted for most Reports of Survey and occupied my time all out of proportion to their usefulness. 

I'd rather equip people with cheap (analog) VHF radios that can also work through repeaters, talk to aircraft, and have much improved range on simplex.

[Al Sayre]

I found the best use for ISR's is to throw them at the person you are trying to talk to, you get better range that way...

[JeffDG]

I found the best use for ISR's is to throw them at the person you are trying to talk to, you get better range that way...

Rubber band with a CAPF 105 attached?

[taylor914]

I guess I missed this memo.  Can you provide an official source?  I'm not seeing anything on the website's news section or in eservices.

[JeffDG]

I guess I missed this memo.  Can you provide an official source?  I'm not seeing anything on the website's news section or in eservices.

Was sent out over HF at least as INTERCOM 87 and 88, and an e-mail went out to the DC mailing list yesterday on the subject.

Contact your Wing DC as they would, at least, have received the e-mail.

[taylor914]

I guess I missed this memo.  Can you provide an official source?  I'm not seeing anything on the website's news section or in eservices.

Was sent out over HF at least as INTERCOM 87 and 88, and an e-mail went out to the DC mailing list yesterday on the subject.

Contact your Wing DC as they would, at least, have received the e-mail.

Thanks for the heads up.  Not that I was doubting Eclipse.  I just hadn't heard anything about this.  I don't have an HF rig, since I live in an apartment.  I would bet my Wing DC just hasn't  checked his email yet.

[Eclipse]

I would bet my Wing DC just hasn't  checked his email yet.

Every third Saturday, whether he needs to or not!

[JeffDG]

I guess I missed this memo.  Can you provide an official source?  I'm not seeing anything on the website's news section or in eservices.

Was sent out over HF at least as INTERCOM 87 and 88, and an e-mail went out to the DC mailing list yesterday on the subject.

Contact your Wing DC as they would, at least, have received the e-mail.

Thanks for the heads up.  Not that I was doubting Eclipse.  I just hadn't heard anything about this.  I don't have an HF rig, since I live in an apartment.  I would bet my Wing DC just hasn't  checked his email yet.

When I was the Wing DC, I had a Group comm officer who did not have an e-mail address.  That was 2012.

[Al Sayre]

Why do you need email when you have radios?

[Eclipse]

Why do you need email when you have radios?

Seriously - which part of "no traffic, over" was hard to understand?

If there's no traffic on the net, there's obviously nothing important going on and you can move on to trying to contact New Zealand.

[BHartman007]

I think ours have been on 10 since I started using them. I hadn't heard anything about this, but then I'm not a DC, just a CD. Or maybe I am a DC and I'm dyslexic.

[PHall]

I found the best use for ISR's is to throw them at the person you are trying to talk to, you get better range that way...

Ours work just fine, as long as you remember that they are a SHORT range radio. Why do you think they named them Intersquad Radios?

[lordmonar]

I found the best use for ISR's is to throw them at the person you are trying to talk to, you get better range that way...

Ours work just fine, as long as you remember that they are a SHORT range radio. Why do you think they named them Intersquad Radios?

+1  Less then a mile.  it is only a 500mW transmitter. 

[JeffDG]

I found the best use for ISR's is to throw them at the person you are trying to talk to, you get better range that way...

Ours work just fine, as long as you remember that they are a SHORT range radio. Why do you think they named them Intersquad Radios?

Naming them correctly would be helpful.  Intrasquad radios would imply short range, as the name indicates that they are to be used within a squad.  Intersquad radios imply greater range as that would indicate that they are for communications outside your squad.

[JC004]

I hate them...never had very good luck with them.      If someone gives me one, I'm pretty much just like "geeeee....thaaaaanks..."

and the frequencies are out of range for my scanner, which sucks.   

[Майор Хаткевич]

I hate them...never had very good luck with them.      If someone gives me one, I'm pretty much just like "geeeee....thaaaaanks..."

and the frequencies are out of range for my scanner, which sucks.   

We use them for encampment, mainly for cadet staff. Of course the issue is that the buildings on base are very good at making things work not so very good.