Chinese Military Pass in Review

[Cliff_Chambliss]

Drill is impecable.  Uniforms are sharp.  Just very impressive.

http://youtu.be/1vA4T1wfJLE

[Luis R. Ramos]

Very, thanks for posting it...

[SarDragon]

I found it interesting that they were all within a couple of inches of being the same height. That makes it much easier to keep the pace and spacing even.

[lordmonar]

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Seems like they are a special team like the old guard......so I bet you they have height requirements like "5' 6" +/- 3" No waiver"

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I have to admit that their Air Force service dress is snappy.



And, as these ladies show, the uniforms in general have shed their former overt Soviet influences.



In fact, the Army uniform reminds me more of the former U.S. Army Class "A" for female soldiers.

I really like the shade of blue the Air Force uniform uses.

[Panache]

When I look at this picture, I can practically hear the giggling.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

When I look at this picture, I can practically hear the giggling.

Young women are young women no matter where you go...and I say that as a guy with five sisters and no brothers.

They're probably comparing notes as to whose uniform is the "cutest."

I know absolutely nothing about Chinese ranks so I've no idea who outranks who in this picture, but they must be fairly close to be "fraternising" so closely.

The only educated guess I can make is that none of them are fresh out of basic training, but they can't be too far up the ladder simply due to being so young.

[Cliff_Chambliss]

When I look at this picture, I can practically hear the giggling.

Young women are young women no matter where you go...and I say that as a guy with five sisters and no brothers.

They're probably comparing notes as to whose uniform is the "cutest."

I know absolutely nothing about Chinese ranks so I've no idea who outranks who in this picture, but they must be fairly close to be "fraternising" so closely.

The only educated guess I can make is that none of them are fresh out of basic training, but they can't be too far up the ladder simply due to being so young.

Oh I don't know about that.  I have known some absolutely beautiful Chinese and Vietnamese women and they seem to keep their really good looks for quite a while.  But when that time is up it's like they hit a stone wall at full speed.  No growing old gracefully.

[Private Investigator]

When I look at this picture, I can practically hear the giggling.

Young women are young women no matter where you go...and I say that as a guy with five sisters and no brothers.

They're probably comparing notes as to whose uniform is the "cutest."

I know absolutely nothing about Chinese ranks so I've no idea who outranks who in this picture, but they must be fairly close to be "fraternising" so closely.

The only educated guess I can make is that none of them are fresh out of basic training, but they can't be too far up the ladder simply due to being so young.

Oh I don't know about that.  I have known some absolutely beautiful Chinese and Vietnamese women and they seem to keep their really good looks for quite a while.  But when that time is up it's like they hit a stone wall at full speed.  No growing old gracefully.

Cliff, that surely sounds like a bigoted statement. You plan on having a beauty contest for octogenarians?   

[Luis R. Ramos]

I am pretty sure those sprigs of leafs on their visors are not a beauty ornament, and means pretty much the same as the "Clouds and Darts," "Scrambled Eggs," and "Oak Leaves" of our senior military. For this reason I think they are not far apart in grade/rank.

[LSThiker]

Very nice and sharp.

Plus some attractive females (yes I know, not a professional comment).

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I am pretty sure those sprigs of leafs on their visors are not a beauty ornament, and means pretty much the same as the "Clouds and Darts," "Scrambled Eggs," and "Oak Leaves" of our senior military. For this reason I think they are not far apart in grade/rank.

Well, I wondered about that myself.  Again, I know nothing about Chinese military ranks so I'm not sure what the braid signifies.  Do all officers get it, or just "field grade," as we do?

If the latter, well, they look a bit young to be Majors/Lieutenant Commanders, etc.

In the RAF/RAAF/RNZAF and formerly the RCAF, one has to reach Group Captain (O-6) before getting "scrambled eggs."


1970s Aussie version as example as I like the "eagle" on their cap badge better.

However, in all three branches of the Canadian military, one gets cap braid (not quite "scrambled eggs") as soon as one is commissioned 2nd Lieutenant (Army/RCAF) or Acting Sub-Lieutenant (RCN).



So, again...almost anything could be inferred as to these ladies' ranks.

[Luis R. Ramos]

It is not very clear what is on their epaulettes, but if the two ladies in green have stars between two bars, one may be the equivalent of a Major, two stars. If the other in green has three stars, she is the equivalent of a Lt Col. The one in white, Navy...? Appears to have three of those, but again, it is not clear. Stars? If so, equivalent to a Lt Col.

That is, if we are to believe Wikipedia. See Ranks of the People's Liberation Army, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_of_the_People%27s_Liberation_Army

[Luis R. Ramos]

Ok, dug a little more...

Stars with one bar through appears to be Captain and below.

See this US Defense Dept photo of a People's Liberation Army Captain.

http://www.defense.gov/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=2977

Three stars, one bar through...

And this is another Defense Dept photo, two stars one bar through is identified as a People's Liberation Army (Navy) Lt JG.

https://www.google.com/search?q=peoples+liberation+army+lieutenant&safe=active&client=firefox-a&hs=NZj&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZcqgU_mtKaKysASZsYHABQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=635#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=4tNtYDzLJvOUiM%253A%3BgCCVe2nzfu0DRM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.defense.gov%252Fspecials%252Fwomenshistory2001%252Fimages%252Fpicture9.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.defense.gov%252Fspecials%252Fwomenshistory2001%252Fphotos.html%3B1300%3B866

So the one in Blue may be the equivalent of a 2d Lt. One star, one bar through.

If these assumptions are correct, then the sprig of leaves on the ladies hat visors are not indicative of senior rank. From the Wikipedia article, senior officers are indicated with stars and another device at the end of the epaulette.

[Panache]

It is not very clear what is on their epaulettes, but if the two ladies in green have stars between two bars, one may be the equivalent of a Major, two stars. If the other in green has three stars, she is the equivalent of a Lt Col. The one in white, Navy...? Appears to have three of those, but again, it is not clear. Stars? If so, equivalent to a Lt Col.

That is, if we are to believe Wikipedia. See Ranks of the People's Liberation Army, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_of_the_People%27s_Liberation_Army

Appears to be confirmed by the "Uniform Insignia Encyclopedia".

The two officers in green (Army, I assume) appear to be field officers ( http://www.uniforminsignia.org/?option=com_insigniasearch&Itemid=53&result=2673 ) while the one in blue (Air Force?) appears to be a junior officer, probably a 2nd Lieutenant ( http://www.uniforminsignia.org/?option=com_insigniasearch&Itemid=53&result=3370 ).

[Luis R. Ramos]

After looking at Panache's post, those officers appear to be:

2 Full Colonels (one in green, Army? The other in white, Navy?)
One Lt Colonel (One in green)
One 2nd Lt. (Blue, Air Force?)

[LSThiker]

After looking at Panache's post, those officers appear to be:

2 Full Colonels (one in green, Army? The other in white, Navy?)
One Lt Colonel (One in green)
One 2nd Lt. (Blue, Air Force?)

That is correct. 

When the type 07 uniforms were release in 2007, the colors were aligned as:

Army:  Green
Air Force:  Blue
Navy:  White (shoulder rank) or Navy Blue (cuff rank)

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Wouldn't the lady in the Naval uniform be a Captain, if she is an O-6 equivalent?

Those are still some very young-looking Captain(?) and Lieutenant Colonels.

[LSThiker]

Wouldn't the lady in the Naval uniform be a Captain, if she is an O-6 equivalent?

Those are still some very young-looking Captain(?) and Lieutenant Colonels.

Actually, she is OF-5 Captain.

If I recall correctly, the ensign and lieutenant junior are both OF-1. 

For the Army and AF, the second lieutenant and first lieutenant are both OF-1 as well. 

An OF-6 is a senior colonel (or US BG). 

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

They must have held on to some vestiges of Soviet rank at least in nomenclature, then.

Soviet (and current Russian) military ranks have three ranks of Lieutenant; the Navy also has a rank of Captain-Lieutenant.