Revised Compliance Inspection Program Reg published CAPR123-3

Started by paul83814, June 10, 2014, 03:30:32 PM

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paul83814

Paul Brand, Capt CAP
Personnel & Admin Officer, IT Officer, Asst. Comm. Officer
Coeur d Alene Composite Squadron

"The best portion of a good man's life is the little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love." --William Wordsworth

JeffDG

Now mandatory at 24 months, no more 36 month option, no more annual Self Inspections.

The new checklists are much nicer.

SarDragon

We're doing our first inspection under the new rules at the end of the month. Will see how it goes. It seems to be a lot simpler.
Dave Bowles
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AT1, USN Retired
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JeffDG

Quote from: SarDragon on June 10, 2014, 08:11:34 PM
We're doing our first inspection under the new rules at the end of the month. Will see how it goes. It seems to be a lot simpler.
Did you give the mandatory 60 days advance notice of the inspection (12e)?

SarDragon

We're not giving, we're getting. I do believe due notice was given initially, but the date got moved up for some reason. "Mongo merely a pawn in game of life."
Dave Bowles
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AT1, USN Retired
55 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

JeffDG

Quote from: SarDragon on June 10, 2014, 11:09:30 PM
We're not giving, we're getting. I do believe due notice was given initially, but the date got moved up for some reason. "Mongo merely a pawn in game of life."
Love that movie.

PHall

Quote from: JeffDG on June 11, 2014, 12:02:34 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 10, 2014, 11:09:30 PM
We're not giving, we're getting. I do believe due notice was given initially, but the date got moved up for some reason. "Mongo merely a pawn in game of life."
Love that movie.


Yeah, the "campfire scene" does seriously resemble a lot of Wing Staff meetings I've been to! >:D

NC Hokie

NC Hokie, Lt Col, CAP

Graduated Squadron Commander
All Around Good Guy

a2capt

I wonder if they went over this at the most recent IG course .. I somewhat wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ;-)
... the way NHQ has been putting out surprise publications.

Here's the checklists:
http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/sui-guide/

JeffDG

Quote from: a2capt on June 11, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
I wonder if they went over this at the most recent IG course .. I somewhat wouldn't be surprised if they didn't ;-)
... the way NHQ has been putting out surprise publications.

Here's the checklists:
http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/sui-guide/
At our last wing staff mtg last month, one of our folks who went to the iG college said they went over this extensively

NC Hokie

Quote from: a2capt on June 11, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Here's the checklists:
http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/sui-guide/

Those are just the compliance checklists.  I was getting a little concerned because they really don't seem to evaluate the substance of the areas being inspected.  I guess that evaluation will be more open ended, although it would be nice to have defined targets to aim for.
NC Hokie, Lt Col, CAP

Graduated Squadron Commander
All Around Good Guy

Eclipse

Quote from: NC Hokie on June 11, 2014, 12:29:39 PMhose are just the compliance checklists.  I was getting a little concerned because they really don't seem to evaluate the substance of the areas being inspected.  I guess that evaluation will be more open ended, although it would be nice to have defined targets to aim for.

No, they will not.  That is the point, to end the root canals units have been enduring.

The checklist says "what to look for", "what equals compliance", and "the the grade for non-compliance".

That's it, "next question".

"That Others May Zoom"

JeffDG

Quote from: NC Hokie on June 11, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: a2capt on June 11, 2014, 02:39:21 AM
Here's the checklists:
http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/sui-guide/

Those are just the compliance checklists.  I was getting a little concerned because they really don't seem to evaluate the substance of the areas being inspected.  I guess that evaluation will be more open ended, although it would be nice to have defined targets to aim for.
SUIs are all about "compliance", so compliance checklists are wholly appropriate.

At the Wing level, the SUI is actually called a "Compliance Inspection".  It's not the Inspector's job to do subjective "you should be doing this like this...", only what you must do per the regulations.

NC Hokie

Quote from: Eclipse on June 11, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: NC Hokie on June 11, 2014, 12:29:39 PMThose are just the compliance checklists.  I was getting a little concerned because they really don't seem to evaluate the substance of the areas being inspected.  I guess that evaluation will be more open ended, although it would be nice to have defined targets to aim for.

No, they will not.  That is the point, to end the root canals units have been enduring.

The checklist says "what to look for", "what equals compliance", and "the the grade for non-compliance".

That's it, "next question".

Look at the Grade Res Calculator on the web page that the checklists are on.  The Compliance Rating sections match the checklists, but there are also Mission Rating sections that aren't covered in any of the documentation on that page.  It appears that this is where the inspection team would give subjective grades on the units performance in the listed areas.

As an aside, I'm not quite sure how I would document compliance with fluid replacement and workload limitations at cadet activities.
NC Hokie, Lt Col, CAP

Graduated Squadron Commander
All Around Good Guy

NC Hokie

Quote from: JeffDG on June 11, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
SUIs are all about "compliance", so compliance checklists are wholly appropriate.

At the Wing level, the SUI is actually called a "Compliance Inspection".  It's not the Inspector's job to do subjective "you should be doing this like this...", only what you must do per the regulations.

See my reply to Eclipse, as it appears that subjective evaluation is still alive and well.

ETA that the regulation references an eServices report generated before the inspection, which may provide some objective criteria for the Mission Rating sections.
NC Hokie, Lt Col, CAP

Graduated Squadron Commander
All Around Good Guy