Senior and Cadet Membership Applications Updated - Feb 2014

[Eclipse]

Electronically fill-able from the links below, but beyond that, it's been a while since I processed one so
no idea what has changed.

Senior: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F012_15378C3760422.pdf

Cadet: http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/F015_9C2337B9FC619.pdf

[Panache]

For the Senior app, it looks like just some changes to the "Voluntary Statistical Information".

Old: "Black(Not of Hispanic Origin)"
New: "Afro-American"

Old: "Asian/Pacific Islander"
New: "Asian" and "Pacific Islander" are now two separate check-boxes.

Old: "American Indian/Alaskan Native"
New: "American Indian" and "Alaskan Native" are now two separate check-boxes.

(If "Black" was changed to "Afro-American", shouldn't "White" be changed to "European-American"?)

The Income check-boxes were deleted.

That's the only changes I see.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Euro-American.

[Eclipse]

Euro-American.

I suro are.

[UH60guy]

That's part of the problem with these box checks. Honestly they should just do away with it all together, especially if it's for no reason other than research.

Fun story: I have a white friend born and raised in South Africa, now with US citizenship. She checks African-American as it is literally the truth. Once, when asked her race at the DMV, she responded as such. The confused employee looked at her and asked "does that mean you're black?"

[Flying Pig]

^^ HAAAAAA....  I have a friend also who is from South Africa and he does the same thing.  He was at the CA DMV and a supervisor actually tried to make him change it to White or Caucasian.  When he refused she made the comment "These forms aren't designed for you to make political statements" and walked away.  He decided to just laugh it off vs. report her.  And he walked out an official African American.  In CA your race isn't on you license, but it is on your info. 

[JeffDG]

Did they adopt the Facebook list of 58 potential genders?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/

[JeffDG]

Euro-American.

What if you're not American?

[Flying Pig]

There should be a "They" box.  That way whenever "they" tell me to do something, Ill know who Im talking about.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Euro-American.

What if you're not American?

People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."

Conversely, those Yanks who have taken out Canadian citizenship, like Melissa Sue Anderson ("Little House on the Prairie" and one of my earliest TV star crushes ), Lauren Holly ("Picket Fences") and George A Romero ("Night of the Living Dead"), call themselves "American-Canadians."

Personally, I think those race/ethnicity check boxes are silly.  I am a mixture of (mostly) Swiss-German (some of whom emigrated to Canada)/Scots-Irish/Alsatian/Norman.  Those all happen to be in Europe, nonetheless I don't think "European" is a good catch-all category, as those often have very different bloodlines (Germanic/Celtic/Scandinavian).

General Colin Powell is often called "African-American," which is somewhat inaccurate as his ancestry is mostly Jamaican.

[JeffDG]

For example, this is an "African-American" by that definition:

[JeffDG]

Euro-American.

What if you're not American?

People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."

I'm not a US citizen.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Euro-American.

What if you're not American?

People from your homeland who have taken out U.S. citizenship, like Alex Trebek, Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Pamela Anderson, often refer to themselves as "Canadian-Americans."

I'm not a US citizen.

I know.  Those were just examples.

I often call myself "North American," because to me it's terribly chauvinistic of we Yanks to lay claim to the exclusive title of "American," given that, by geography, anyone from the continents of North America and South America are "Americans."

[Luis R. Ramos]

I do not feel any such compunction.

Because our calling ourselves Americans comes from the name of the country. United States of America. Not from the name of the continent.  If any other country in the Americas had named their country with the "America" as part of the country name, then they could use "American" to refer to themselves.

Canada of America? Not! Just Canada.

Chile de America? Not! Just Chile.

Brazil de America? Not! Just Brazil.

Mexico de America? Not! Just Mexico.

That is why they are "Chileans" or "Brazilians." Chilenos or Brazilenos. Or Mejicanos.

So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!

And in Europe, some may call themselves "Europeans," but you hear mostly "French," "Belgian," Etc. Derived from the country name. Not from the name of the continent.

And although I am Puerto Rican, I am an American. Not because I am from Puerto Rico which is in the Americas, but because I live in the US of America.



Flyer

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I do not feel any such compunction.

Because our calling ourselves Americans comes from the name of the country. United States of America. Not from the name of the continent.  If any other country in the Americas had named their country with the "America" as part of the country name, then they could use "American" to refer to themselves.

Canada of America? Not! Just Canada.

Dominion of Canada, though it's not used a lot these days.  Originally British North America.

Chile de America? Not! Just Chile.

República de Chile.

Brazil de America? Not! Just Brazil.

República Federativa do Brasil.

Mexico de America? Not! Just Mexico.

Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

That is why they are "Chileans" or "Brazilians." Chilenos or Brazilenos. Or Mejicanos.

Who are all, geographically, Americans.  However, although Hawaiians are U.S. citizens, geographically they are not Americans.  They would be Polynesians.

So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!

Some of my Canadian cousins call us "Statesers," but I also hear "Yanks" there a lot, mostly as a pejorative.  "USians" has also been suggested.

And in Europe, some may call themselves "Europeans," but you hear mostly "French," "Belgian," Etc. Derived from the country name. Not from the name of the continent.

I find that increasingly, on the Continent, younger people do use "European."  However, the British are stubbornly (and unsurprisingly) retaining "British" (or "English," "Scottish," "Welsh," "Northern Irish/Ulster").  A friend of mine there was livid when British passports started being printed with "European Union" on them.

And although I am Puerto Rican, I am an American. Not because I am from Puerto Rico which is in the Americas, but because I live in the US of America.

I grew up around quite a few Puerto Ricans.  Most that I knew would lay claim to the title "American" because of both citizenship and location.

[Eclipse]

'Merica

[JeffDG]

So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!

Well y'all certainly can't lay claim to being great hockey players after being shut out of the medals in Sichi

[a2capt]

That's Sochi.

[PHall]

So are you proposing we now start calling ourselves "Statesians?" Not!

Well y'all certainly can't lay claim to being great hockey players after being shut out of the medals in Sichi

'Neither can the Russians!

[SarDragon]

For example, this is an "African-American" by that definition:

Ethnically, I do not consider her African. As a descendent of colonists, she is more properly European/Caucasian, since she has French, Dutch, and German ancestry. That would also apply to UH60guy's white friend.