Significant changes to CI program aad procedures coming in March.

Started by Eclipse, February 22, 2014, 08:13:27 PM

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Eclipse

This hit the RSS yesterday:
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/2014_02_21_CAPR_1233_C1C3EE80E22D7.pdf

"1. CAPR 123-3 is currently undergoing a major revision. Until this revision is complete this
interim change letter will remain in effect. The compliance inspection (CI) guide is being replaced
by a CI checklist. The checklist will be phased in over the next three CIs. The CI report format from
the checklist will be used for the DEWG, WAWG and HIWG CIs. The entire CI checklist and CI
report format will be used on all CIs after the HIWG CI. Significant changes are listed below:..."


I don't suppose anyone here has seen the checklist? 

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Laplace

Our C.I. was a few weeks ago and the new system was beta tested.  Each of our sections was inspected via the current (old) way and also done using the new C.I. checklist.  We were graded using the current version and were not told how the Wing would have fared under the upcoming version.  I did get a chance to briefly look at a few of the new C.I. checklist sections, and not only were the amount of questions reduced significantly, the checklists answers appear to be limited to just "yes" or "no".

It looked like an easier process for the inspectors and, with this system and the new on-line discrepancy closing procedure, an easier process for the Wings.

Hopefully, a similar set-up will be in place soon for SUIs  ;)

Spaceman3750

With the reduction in the SD/CAP-RAP force, who is actually doing CIs now?

Eclipse

The inspection teams are comprised of CAP-USAF personnel and IGs from other wings.

Much of it is done remotely or virtually, since the majority of consequence is online or can be scanned and provided.
There is very little that can't be done via phone or online these days, which coincides with the reduced travel budgets.

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Phil Hirons, Jr.

The checklists are in the Knowledge Base

https://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/home

There is a tab called Job Performance Information.

Eclipse

Wait.

Just.

One.

Minute...

Am I to be led to believe that the checklists will tell everyone involved:

Exactly what's expected?

Exactly what complies and how to determine that?

Exactly how to grade?

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JeffDG

I want to know what's going to happen at the 14 month mark when Wings have been sending responses to NHQ and getting zero replies from NHQ.

I'm all for setting suspense dates, but when the penalties are all on one side, while the other side has no control over getting NHQ to actually process the responses, things are going to end badly.

Phil Hirons, Jr.

Quote from: JeffDG on February 24, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
I want to know what's going to happen at the 14 month mark when Wings have been sending responses to NHQ and getting zero replies from NHQ.

I'm all for setting suspense dates, but when the penalties are all on one side, while the other side has no control over getting NHQ to actually process the responses, things are going to end badly.

The first time I've looked for the Like button on CAP Talk! :) :)

Eclipse

Quote from: JeffDG on February 24, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
I want to know what's going to happen at the 14 month mark when Wings have been sending responses to NHQ and getting zero replies from NHQ.

I'm all for setting suspense dates, but when the penalties are all on one side, while the other side has no control over getting NHQ to actually process the responses, things are going to end badly.

I would say there is certainly the potential for that - right now Region and NHQ is where a lot of things like ROS' and similar
go and sit on a desk somewhere for months and years.

However I think I read somewhere that part of this is to get all parties to light a fire and stop having these inspections
be never-ending gobstoppers of administrivia.

One weak point I could see would be where a discrepancy is disputed, or requires NHQ OK, or whatever, and the
results, whatever they are, require action on the part of the wing, action it can't take until the matter is decided.
There's a lot of room for "Friday Afternoon ToDo List Syndrome".   (i.e. "I sat on this for 13.999 months, you've not
got 20 minutes to move your airplanes").

However pinch points notwithstanding, if what I just saw on the KB is close to the "final", I'm jazzed because
it's a huge step in the right direction and should focus things back more towards "doing" and not just cramming for the CI.

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Private Investigator

Quote from: Eclipse on February 24, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
Wait.

Just.

One.

Minute...

Am I to be led to believe that the checklists will tell everyone involved:

Exactly what's expected?

Exactly what complies and how to determine that?

Exactly how to grade?

I liked the pre 9/11 checklist. At the end the inspector can say, "you got a 95".  8)

Eclipse

INSPECTOR GENERAL: JOINT COMPLIANCE INSPECTIONS TAKING LESS TIME

http://capvolunteernow.com/todays-features/?inspector_general_joint_compliance_inspections_taking_less_time&show=news&newsID=18233

"The campaign to streamline and speed up Civil Air Patrol and CAP-USAF's joint compliance inspection report process for CAP wings is showing positive results, officials say.

With the implementation of new procedures recommended during a four-day session  in August at National Headquarters, individual compliance inspections are now taking 51 fewer man-hours than before -- a number expected to increase to at least 193 man-hours once other new approaches are in place, according to figures from the office of Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Griffith, CAP-USAF inspector general.

Most of the time savings are expected to reduce wing preparation time for CIs. Less time preparing for inspection should translate, in turn, to more time focusing on being compliant and mission-ready."


"When CAP and CAP-USAF inspectors general staff and others gathered for their meeting during the summer, CI reports -- intended to gauge a wing's overall missions readiness in a variety of areas -- were taking an average of 296 days to generate, and the inspections themselves required nearly 1,000 man-hours to conduct."

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