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Started by MSchmid, November 29, 2013, 07:39:01 AM

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MSchmid

I have a question about the promotion qualifications for a Chaplain.
One source seems to indicate that all a chaplain needs for promotion from Cap to Maj is to reach his technician level and the appropriate time in grade. Another source seems to indicate that they need to have all the normal requirements as well as the technician level as a chaplain.

Which is correct? My squadron chaplain just received his tech level as a chaplain and has 3 years in as a Capt. If he is eligible, I would like to start the process ASAP.

a2capt

What does eServices say?

Start the process, see what is green, and what is not.

arajca

Presuming you're going for a duty performance promotion, eServices should be able to process it. If any special approvals are necessary, the system is supposed to automatically route the request for permission to them. Additionally, a disapproval generally requires the disapprover to list why they disapproved it.

Full disclosure - I've never processed a Chaplain promotion, but I have processed several other duty performance promotions.

PHall

A review of CAPR 35-5 will reveal all.

Private Investigator

In my Wing, the Wing Chaplain wanted to be in the loop for Chaplain promotions. I believe for two reasons, one, he wanted to be first the pat the other Chaplain on the back. Second I believe has to do with Chaplain Corps Staff College and their professional development.

Lot of Chaplains hold multiple hats. So a Chaplain can be your Logistics Officer and get a Master rating in that quickly as well as do our professional development, SLS, CLC, etc. So they can be a Lt Col and a great Supply Officer but never do any of the Chaplain professional development.

Private Investigator

A review of CAPR 265-1 is called for and he should have passed the exam 221A

MSG Mac

Chaplains must meet the same requirements as everyday members, from Level 1 through the Wilson Award. There is a minor variation with RSC, where the Chaplains actuall have to attend two.
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

Chappie

Quote from: MSG Mac on November 30, 2013, 02:12:23 AM
Chaplains must meet the same requirements as everyday members, from Level 1 through the Wilson Award. There is a minor variation with RSC, where the Chaplains actuall have to attend two.

It's great to see someone who knows about what it takes for a Chaplain to get promoted.  This change took place in 2008.  In 2011 the 221 Specialty Track was released.  As the former Chief of Chaplains would proudly exclaim, "The CAP Chaplain Corps has joined CAP when it comes to the area of professional development."  These changes are the result of senior leadership in the Chaplain Corps who desired chaplains to be integrated into the organization and be able to identify more readily with the membership in terms of training.  No longer are chaplains promoted for simply breathing air for a certain length of time and reading two pamphlets :).    While it is true that Chaplains can wear many hats and hold Master ratings in other specialties, hopefully the Wing/Region chaplain holds a Master Rating in the Chaplain Specialty Track - 221 (I hold a Master Rating in Cadet Programs, Chaplain and Professional Development). 
Disclaimer:  Not to be confused with the other user that goes by "Chappy"   :)

a2capt

Quote from: MSG Mac on November 30, 2013, 02:12:23 AMChaplains must meet the same requirements as everyday members, from Level 1 through the Wilson Award. There is a minor variation with RSC, where the Chaplains actuall have to attend two.
Which is exactly why I said to see what eServices has to say about it. Because TIG, Ratings and such are all tracked, and right there.

Private Investigator

Quote from: Chappie on November 30, 2013, 04:20:34 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on November 30, 2013, 02:12:23 AM
Chaplains must meet the same requirements as everyday members, from Level 1 through the Wilson Award. There is a minor variation with RSC, where the Chaplains actuall have to attend two.

It's great to see someone who knows about what it takes for a Chaplain to get promoted.  This change took place in 2008.  In 2011 the 221 Specialty Track was released.  As the former Chief of Chaplains would proudly exclaim, "The CAP Chaplain Corps has joined CAP when it comes to the area of professional development."  These changes are the result of senior leadership in the Chaplain Corps who desired chaplains to be integrated into the organization and be able to identify more readily with the membership in terms of training.  No longer are chaplains promoted for simply breathing air for a certain length of time and reading two pamphlets :).    While it is true that Chaplains can wear many hats and hold Master ratings in other specialties, hopefully the Wing/Region chaplain holds a Master Rating in the Chaplain Specialty Track - 221 (I hold a Master Rating in Cadet Programs, Chaplain and Professional Development).

Thank you sir.  :clap:

MSchmid

Thank You all. I think I just got a bit confused by the instructions on the CAP F2.

PHall

Quote from: MSchmid on December 02, 2013, 12:38:25 AM
Thank You all. I think I just got a bit confused by the instructions on the CAP F2.

That's why you NEED to review the 35-5 first before you start completing that Form 2.
The vast majority of your questions would have been answered.