Former National Capitol Wing Master Sergeant

Started by hhbooker2, May 01, 2013, 09:12:10 PM

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Flying Pig

Quote from: a2capt on May 03, 2013, 06:41:35 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on May 03, 2013, 04:17:44 AMIf that is him then we have a legend on our hands gents.... that picture is legendary and has been floating around CAP for decades.
Sort of like your name plate .. when you went back to the unit.

Well, okay, not quite. But.. :)

That was an epic experience of biblical proportion for all who were involved.... entirely different category  ;D

hhbooker2

Quote from: ColonelJack on May 03, 2013, 10:16:12 AM
I went to his Picasa site ... if the pictures posted there that are identified as "Profile" are of him, then it's him in the classic CAP MSgt photo.

Welcome, MSgt Booker!  You indeed are an icon!

Jack

Greetings & Salutations! Me, an icon? Really? Maybe they'll restore airmen and NCO ranks in the Civil Air Patrol if enough people ask for that! Lieutenant Colonel Preston Perrenot (Las Vegas, NV) has a lot of good books and CDs on the insignia of the U.S. Armed Forces going back to the American Revolution to the present including the Civil Air Patrol, Auxiliary of the U.S. Air Force. Itr woulds appear the highest C.A.P. in WW2 was a Major! Don't known when they added Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel and Brigadier General ranks? Was surprised when Major General was included, Lieutenant General in the future? The U.S. Revenue Cutter Service, forerunner to the U.S. Coast Guard had the rank of Captain. U.S. Marine Corps gradually got Brigadier General, then Major General, etc., just a matter of time they'll have a Lieutenant General?
Herbert Booker

PHall

Quote from: hhbooker2 on May 05, 2013, 05:47:27 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on May 03, 2013, 10:16:12 AM
I went to his Picasa site ... if the pictures posted there that are identified as "Profile" are of him, then it's him in the classic CAP MSgt photo.

Welcome, MSgt Booker!  You indeed are an icon!

Jack

Greetings & Salutations! Me, an icon? Really? Maybe they'll restore airmen and NCO ranks in the Civil Air Patrol if enough people ask for that! Lieutenant Colonel Preston Perrenot (Las Vegas, NV) has a lot of good books and CDs on the insignia of the U.S. Armed Forces going back to the American Revolution to the present including the Civil Air Patrol, Auxiliary of the U.S. Air Force. Itr woulds appear the highest C.A.P. in WW2 was a Major! Don't known when they added Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel and Brigadier General ranks? Was surprised when Major General was included, Lieutenant General in the future? The U.S. Revenue Cutter Service, forerunner to the U.S. Coast Guard had the rank of Captain. U.S. Marine Corps gradually got Brigadier General, then Major General, etc., just a matter of time they'll have a Lieutenant General?

Sergeant Booker, there are NCO ranks in CAP. They're reserved for current and former Military NCO's. Just need to show proof that you are/were an NCO in the military and it's yours.

m981

This reminds me that Mawg, in late 70's to at least early 80's, appointed senior members to grades from ssg to msg, even without prior nco service. I don't think it was authorized by national, but still done on a few occasions.
LTC. CAP
Spaatz
Wilson

LCG8928

As stated before you can become a CAP NCO by getting reinstatement for your previous rank or providing proof that you were an NCO in the Armed Forces. If you became a NCO you wouldn't be able to advance above Level 1 of the senior member program though. That being said you could still do a lot of good work from that rank so its up to you.

hhbooker2

Quote from: LCG8928 on May 05, 2013, 12:46:26 PM
As stated before you can become a CAP NCO by getting reinstatement for your previous rank or providing proof that you were an NCO in the Armed Forces. If you became a NCO you wouldn't be able to advance above Level 1 of the senior member program though. That being said you could still do a lot of good work from that rank so its up to you.

Greetings & Salutations! In the regular Army you might make it as far as SSG (E-6), SFC (E-7) or even to MSG/1SG (E-8), few make it to SGM or CSM (E-9), so not getting promoted higher than Staff Sergeant, Technical Sergeant or Master Sergeant would come as no shock! Same could be said for peaking at Lieutenant Colonel, how many can make full Colonel? Besides myself, only saw a female CAP member who was a Tech Sergeant (5 chevrons), never ever saw 4 chevrons of a Staff Sergeant in my time? Saw no Warrant Officers either. My stepfather was a civilian pilot who retired from the U.S. Navy (Submarine Service) in 1949, they started him as a Captain in the C.A.P. in Charleston, South Carolina. Saw a lot of Lieutenant Colonels and full Colonels at National Capitol Wing, maybe they were from other Squadrons? I'd be okay with being a Senior Member unless they needed someone to perform a duty requiring a Second Lieutenant? Whatever for the good of the squadron!
Herbert Booker

Private Investigator

Quote from: m981 on May 05, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
This reminds me that Mawg, in late 70's to at least early 80's, appointed senior members to grades from ssg to msg, even without prior nco service. I don't think it was authorized by national, but still done on a few occasions.

Roger that. In the 80s a Senior Squadron asked me what I wanted to do. I told them I would like to be the First Sergeant. The Commander said, "that's ok with me." (The Commander was a Career CAP Squadron Commander and he really loved his little kingdom that came with a plane too)  8)

Private Investigator

Quote from: hhbooker2 on May 05, 2013, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: LCG8928 on May 05, 2013, 12:46:26 PM
As stated before you can become a CAP NCO by getting reinstatement for your previous rank or providing proof that you were an NCO in the Armed Forces. If you became a NCO you wouldn't be able to advance above Level 1 of the senior member program though. That being said you could still do a lot of good work from that rank so its up to you.

Greetings & Salutations! In the regular Army you might make it as far as SSG (E-6), SFC (E-7) or even to MSG/1SG (E-8), few make it to SGM or CSM (E-9), so not getting promoted higher than Staff Sergeant, Technical Sergeant or Master Sergeant would come as no shock!

Whatever for the good of the squadron!

I reenlisted in the Army National Guard in '82 and we had a SSG that was in Patton's Third Army. Good stories indeed.  8)