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Finally got my CAPID!

Started by J2H, April 03, 2013, 01:56:31 AM

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J2H

 Check cashed,  got my ID  now I guess I have to submit a photo for an ID  card.  Finished all the requirements for level 1  too.Yay  me  lol
SSgt Jeffrey Hughes, Squadron NCO
Glenn L. Martin Composite Squadron MD-031
#217169

BHartman007

Congrats. I sent in my stuff a month ago, and now it's lost somewhere, lol.

Wing Assistant Director of Administration
Squadron Deputy Commander for Cadets

J2H

Maybe they are just being slow?
SSgt Jeffrey Hughes, Squadron NCO
Glenn L. Martin Composite Squadron MD-031
#217169

Private Investigator

In the old days we always quoted 30 days but with the modern technologies you should know quickly if the check bounced or the prints got lost.

Good luck

BHartman007

With mine it got to NHQ in 4 days, got sent back the next day for a minor snafu, and no one knew about it till I called two weeks later. No one knew about it because the squadron never got it. We're on a military base, and we think it's mixed up in some base mail somewhere, so the hunt is on.

Wing Assistant Director of Administration
Squadron Deputy Commander for Cadets

J2H

Oh yeah, that should be fun lol
SSgt Jeffrey Hughes, Squadron NCO
Glenn L. Martin Composite Squadron MD-031
#217169

Knight1427

I sent in all the forms three weeks ago, but the meetings have been cancelled twice, first one cancelled for weather, second for a parking detail, so even if my squadron has gotten it, I have to wait.  :(

Private Investigator

Quote from: Knight1427 on June 18, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
I sent in all the forms three weeks ago, but the meetings have been cancelled twice, first one cancelled for weather, second for a parking detail, so even if my squadron has gotten it, I have to wait.  :(

CAP been around for 71+ years. It will be there next week. Have fun when you do meet   8)

Knight1427

Quote from: Private Investigator on June 19, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Knight1427 on June 18, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
I sent in all the forms three weeks ago, but the meetings have been cancelled twice, first one cancelled for weather, second for a parking detail, so even if my squadron has gotten it, I have to wait.  :(

CAP been around for 71+ years. It will be there next week. Have fun when you do meet   8)

Thanks!

Nikos

I called in on the phone the first week of this month. Got my ID card around 10 days later. I just got my second ID card this week.  They both look the same to me!!! 

PilotJoe78

I'm embarrassed to sit there and say I still haven't got my ID card and it's been six months at minimum.

Mela_007

Man, I guess I'm not the only one in this boat.  I got my CAPID # both as an email and from our Squadron Personnel Officer, however, my members kit with my ID card has not arrived.  It's been a month for me.  I guess I'll just keep waiting for a little while.  I have completed several of the initial trainings, but even if I have them all complete I will not be able to participate in an exercise until I get the ID card.  I hope all of our ID cards arrive soon!
"Worry is the Darkroom in which negatives develop."  -Unknown

EMT-83

You can print a temporary card in eServices that's just as valid.

Mela_007

If the temporary card from eServices says "Temporary" on it, then is the member/person a full member or a Temporary member (I have printed mine)?  Since I'm assuming that the final card hasn't come because the background check is not complete, then wouldn't that make the new person still a Temporary member until they receive the ID card?  It's listed in 60-3 that temporary members cannot participate in several parts of exercises.  I thought I read it somewhere else too, but it's definitely listed in the GES portion of the reg (2-3-e).  I guess I need to know what the definition of a Temporary member is...?
"Worry is the Darkroom in which negatives develop."  -Unknown

FlyTiger77

Quote from: Mela_007 on July 30, 2013, 02:22:49 PM
Man, I guess I'm not the only one in this boat.  I got my CAPID # both as an email and from our Squadron Personnel Officer, however, my members kit with my ID card has not arrived.  It's been a month for me.  I guess I'll just keep waiting for a little while.  I have completed several of the initial trainings, but even if I have them all complete I will not be able to participate in an exercise until I get the ID card.  I hope all of our ID cards arrive soon!

1. Go to CAPMembers.Com and log into eServices.
2. Click on "My Account" in the upper right corner.
3. Halfway down that page there is a dark blue rectangle labeled "Print Temporary Card (To be used only until the real card arrives!)". Click on it.
4. Click "Ok"
5. Click "Open"
6. Print
7. Participate!
JACK E. MULLINAX II, Lt Col, CAP

Huey Driver

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Quote from: Mela_007 on July 30, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
If the temporary card from eServices says "Temporary" on it, then is the member/person a full member or a Temporary member (I have printed mine)?  Since I'm assuming that the final card hasn't come because the background check is not complete, then wouldn't that make the new person still a Temporary member until they receive the ID card?  It's listed in 60-3 that temporary members cannot participate in several parts of exercises.  I thought I read it somewhere else too, but it's definitely listed in the GES portion of the reg (2-3-e).  I guess I need to know what the definition of a Temporary member is...?

There is no "temporary member". Once your paperwork has cleared and you have a CAPID, you're a member. If you can get into eServices, you're a member. The phraseology for "temporary" only refers to your printed paper card, and like stated above, is only to be used until your permanent plastic card arrives.

Scratch that. Learn something new everyday. I'm just surprised that you can get membership of any type approved without a background check completed.
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right...

Phil Hirons, Jr.

Quote from: JerseyCadet on July 30, 2013, 06:15:34 PM
There is no "temporary member". Once your paperwork has cleared and you have a CAPID, you're a member. If you can get into eServices, you're a member. The phraseology for "temporary" only refers to your printed paper card, and like stated above, is only to be used until your permanent plastic card arrives.

CAP Regulations disagree.

Quote from: CAPR 39-2 para 15a
National Headquarters will issue membership cards to all new cadets and senior members. Senior members placed in temporary status until membership eligibility is validated by the screening process will not receive a membership card until their membership status has been approved. These members may download a temporary membership card from eServices for their use until the actual card is received. Senior members in this temporary status will have limited privileges until they have cleared the screening process. Individuals in temporary membership status are not eligible for liability coverage under the FECA. These individuals are eligible to accomplish academic training activities, observe mission base training and operations and assist in chaperoning cadet activities. They may not participate in Air Force assigned missions. Membership cards will be reissued annually upon renewal.

Quote from: CAPR 60-3 para 2-3e (partial)
...Individuals in temporary membership are not eligible for liability coverage under the FECA or FTCA. Individuals in temporary membership status are eligible to accomplish academic training activities, but are not authorized to observe mission base training and operations due to liability issues. In addition, they may not participate in any flight activities (including flight line activities) or ground, urban direction finding team, or CERT field activities. ...

Quote from: CAPR 52-10 para 3b
All senior members must be screened in accordance with CAPM 39-2 and undergo Cadet Protection Program Training (CPPT) before working with cadets (CAPR 50-17, CAP Senior Member Professional Development Program). Members who have not completed the screening process and received their FBI "approved" status will not be permitted to act as the primary supervisor at cadet activities or associate with cadets in any way without the in-person supervision of a senior member who is currently in FBI "approved" status. FBI approved status is defined by a leadership code of "A" on the monthly membership listing and the issuance of a membership card that does not reflect the word "temporary."

So we seem to have expanded (and not in these reg revisions as they are not grey) the limitations on what a senior member can do before the FBI check comes back. I know at one time the only exclusion was the sole supervision of cadets as listed above.

Mela_007

I knew I read it in more than one place. Thanks. I'm hoping the card comes soon!  There is not an exercise for several weeks so it will hopefully be here by then.
"Worry is the Darkroom in which negatives develop."  -Unknown

MacGruff

I've experienced this story myself. I originally signed up in April of this year. The squadron has one of its senior members do the fingerprint process as he's a police officer who does such tasks on a normal basis.

In June I received a letter from National HQ that my fingerprints could not be read. They included a new fingerprint card and on the next meeting I had the police officer take my fingerprints again, and the squadron sent the form in.

Now it's almost August and e-services still shows me as waiting for the FBI clearance. Needless to say, I do not have my regular membership card yet...

Is a two month plus time delay on this normal? From reading the other posts here, it seems that some people kind of get stuck in this process...  Is there anyone at National HQ that I can contact who can maybe move this past whatever blockage is in the system?

Thanks,

jeders

Quote from: MacGruff on July 31, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
Is there anyone at National HQ that I can contact who can maybe move this past whatever blockage is in the system?

Yes, Membership Services. From the national website, Hilda Cobb (877) 227-9142 X201.
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