Process & difficulty in wing commander

[Need2know]

My question will be simple.  Have wing commanders been relieved from their position for their failureship instead of leadership of the wing? 

[Eclipse]

Once again, this time in English.

[SARDOC]

Once again, this time in English.

Yeah,  I really don't understand his question either.  Probably just a One Post Wonder.

[Eclipse]

For fun, let's chart this out.

1) Drive-by poster drops bizarre, loaded question about wing CC.

2) We warn about what a bad idea this is if you value your CAP membership and that there are proper channels for complaints.

3) Drive-by returns and starts dropping hints about who it is, and the "Armageddon-level nature" of the wrongs committed by this Wing CC.

4) We repeat #2, and then indicate that there is no way to actually discuss the situation in a coherent manner if for no other reason then
we only have the aggrieved side of the story, and these things are rarely as heinous as alleged.

5) The Drive-by escalates the rhetoric, fills in more of the "details" to insure that there can't possibly be justification for the Wing CC's actions (or inaction).

6) We again repeat #2 and #4.

7) Drive-by then says that our lack of concern and "call to action" is indicative of all that is wrong with:

CAP
Society
The Schools
The Government
Life
The Universe
Everything else.

8)(ish)  The Drive-by's identity is revealed, either through his own words or Google-Fu.

9) The thread is locked.

10) We go back to discussing the digitals.

Did I miss anything?

[CAP4117]

^  :clap:

EDIT: Also, I think "failureship" should be added to the CAP lexicon. It's kind of poetic 

[Майор Хаткевич]

Sir, your leadership in failureship has been quite extraordinary. Here is your CAPF2B Award for your uncomplishments.

[Eclipse]

OK, I >really< like "uncomplishments". That'll get used.

[spaatzmom]

Did Radioman just dive bomb us again?

[Майор Хаткевич]

Did Radioman just dive bomb us again?

No one saw the direct hit, so it's an unconfirmed hit. Either way, this is the CIVIL air patrol, and everyone knows we shouldn't have bombs.

[DJN245]

My question will be simple.  Have wing commanders been relieved from their position for their failureship instead of leadership of the wing? 

To answer your question, probably not, and whatever reason you have to be angry with your Wing commander, I highly doubt that your wing commander has done something so heinous, so flagrant that it gives those above him/her no choice but to remove him/her. I feel that you should be warned that only in an EXTREME case will someone be removed from their positon, as it would look badly on Cap, and more specifically those who put said Wing commander in the position.

Also, whatever angry letters, emails, and posts on CAPTALK that you write, I highly doubt that it would make the slightest difference, except for the fact that you will be in poor graces with your wing, probably for quite some time. My advice in short: Drop it, its probably not worth it.

[PWK-GT]

Did Radioman just dive bomb us again?

No one saw the direct hit, so it's an unconfirmed hit. Either way, this is the CIVIL air patrol, and everyone knows we shouldn't have bombs.

FTFY, Mikey....

[LGM30GMCC]

Did Radioman just dive bomb us again?

No one saw the direct hit, so it's an unconfirmed hit. Either way, this is the CIVIL air patrol, and everyone knows we shouldn't have bombs.

I prefer having dual phenomenology  before launching an attack on warning. That being said...I'm all for waking up my crew partner and getting ready to launch retaliatory strikes.

[lordmonar]

Sky King, Sky King, this is Crystal Place with an EAM message........

[Treadhead]

So... If I've had a failureship in one of my unaccomplishments, does this mean that I've had a success?

[SarDragon]

You, my friend, are a victim of disorganized thinking. You are under the unfortunate impression that just because you run away you have no courage; you're confusing courage with wisdom.

[Private Investigator]

My question will be simple.  Have wing commanders been relieved from their position for their failureship instead of leadership of the wing?

When you are finish texting, welcome aboard newbie   

[ol'fido]

My question will be simple.  Have wing commanders been relieved from their position for their failureship instead of leadership of the wing?

That's need to know, Need2know. And you have no NEED TO KNOW.

[PHall]

Sky King, Sky King, this is Crystal Place with an EAM message........

Watch War Games much?     (And they got it wrong too.)

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

It would take something really egregious...open violation of CAP regs or of Federal/State/County/Municipal Laws.

That, I think, would count as "failureship," and that's the truthiness.

[bflynn]

See DJN245's post above, relax and take a deep breath.  I don't think I've ever heard of a wing commander being relieved for a failure of leadership. 

On the other hand, it happens in the real military all the time.  But that's an entirely different animal...