Flight Academies no longer NCSAs

Started by Eclipse, December 14, 2012, 03:06:31 AM

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Eclipse

Along with the announcement of the retirement of the HGA, it was also indicated that the National Flight Academies would
now be run as Region-level activities and no longer be considered NCSAs.

It won't mean much, if anything, to the actual activities, funding and process will remain the same.

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coudano

That's a bummer,
cadets are forbidden to solo in some cases, they should at least come out with an ncsa ribbon, imho

a2capt


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Cool Mace

I heard this at our last Wing meeting.

Planning, and spending will remain the same. So I don't see why it should be removed as a NCSA.

I didn't hear that cadets are forbidden to solo in some cases. I know not all cadets are able to solo due to lack of flight time, or aren't ready before the end of it.
But not being able to solo in "some cases" doesn't make sense to me.
CAP is what you make of it. If you don't put anything in to it, you won't get anything out of it.
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Eclipse

A memo downstream from Maj Gen Carr - I don't see it posted publicly yet, either.
It indicated the activities will still be eligible for the ribbon, with the primary differences in the activities being localized command and resource allocation.

Other then some details, I don't think it will make much difference to the participants or the activities themselves.

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Thrashed


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jimmydeanno

Quote from: Cool Mace on December 14, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
I know not all cadets are able to solo due to lack of flight time, or aren't ready before the end of it.

You answered your own question.  The above are, "some cases."

Weather, lack of skill, failure to perform, etc., would forbid some cadets from being able to solo at the academy. 
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Cool Mace

The way it came across is that even if they are ready to solo, have enough time and everything is lined out, they still can't. Maybe I'm just reading too far into it. It tends to happen every now and then...
CAP is what you make of it. If you don't put anything in to it, you won't get anything out of it.
Eaker #2250
C/Lt Col, Ret.
The cookies and donuts were a lie.

coudano

i was making reference to capr 60-1 3-7.a.2

but eclipse already addressed thenribbon thing, so nevermind, carry on!

a2capt

Interesting though, that the NCSA site listings don't indicate the flight academies are not "National" anymore, other than in the name of the event. The new CAPR 60-1 (12-December, 2012) defines them a little more too. I realize many non-National level activities use the same system due to it's familiarity and a similar selection process for said event.

At least they didn't remove the ribbon from the event since these are typically fairly high level, competitive selection events and even just the selection is supposed to be an indicator of accomplishments over their cadet career, which is really what the ribbon specifies. 

Yes, I know. Some people think we have too many ribbons, but another thread seems to have shown that some of the active duty branches have more than CAP does. So.. :)

Regardless of what, even if it's Podunk Composite Squadron offering a 10 day focused activity in one airplane for 5 cadets over a 10 day period, it may not sound like much but it is quite a deal. The environment is typically more aviation immersed than the typical FBO/flight school operation.