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Started by paladin82, November 06, 2012, 10:02:39 PM

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paladin82

When my membership ended at the end of May, I opted not to renew it.  Lately, I have been thinking that may not have been the best idea.  I was a 2d Lt, and I need to know how long I have to renew before I have to start all over.

Thanks.

Garibaldi

You can renew at any time within 3 years, if you pay your past dues, and retain your grade. After that point, it's up to your unit CC to approve or disapprove any grade reinstatement up to Major, which is what happened to me. I was out 6 years and it had to go to Wing. Lt Col reinstatement goes to Region.

Anyway, yeah, if it's only been 6 months you should be OK if you reapply on a Form 12 and submit it to your commander. You may not even have to go through a background check and fingerprints.
Still a major after all these years.
ES dude, leadership ossifer, publik affaires
Opinionated and wrong 99% of the time about all things

RogueLeader

Quote from: Garibaldi on November 06, 2012, 10:10:40 PM
You can renew at any time within 3 2 years, if you pay your past dues, and retain your grade. After that point, it's up to your unit CC to approve or disapprove any grade reinstatement up to Major, which is what happened to me. I was out 6 years and it had to go to Wing. Lt Col reinstatement goes to Region.

Anyway, yeah, if it's only been 6 months you should be OK if you reapply on a Form 12 and submit it to your commander. You may not even have to go through a background check and fingerprints.
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Eclipse

Renewals over 180 days requie a new fingerprint card.  Depending on the date you termed, yo may already be past that.
If not, the clock is ticking loudly.

CAPR 39-2

4-2. Renewal Period. The membership renewal period is 60 days prior and 180 days following the membership expiration date. Additionally, upon acceptance by the unit and higher headquarters, senior members may late renew at any time within 2 years of the membership expiration date by paying retroactive dues. The renewal period following the membership expiration date is an administrative convenience only. This is not a "grace" period. An individual is not a CAP member and is not authorized to participate in CAP activities after the membership expiration date until renewal dues are accepted by National Headquarters for another membership year. Senior, patron and cadet sponsor members must reconfirm their adherence to the Oath of Membership in order to renew.

b. Senior members not renewing within 90 days following their membership expiration date have the option of rejoining at any time or late renewing within 2 years of their membership expiration date. Membership renewals over 90 days from the expiration date are subject to acceptance by the unit and higher headquarters and payment of retroactive membership dues. A new fingerprint card must also accompany any renewal over 180 days late.

(1) Members electing to rejoin must reapply (CAPF 12 and fingerprint card) and be accepted by the unit and higher headquarters (see Chapter 3). Upon acceptance, members will be credited with previous achievements, but their records will reflect a break in service. NOTE: Reinstatement of grade of former members is neither automatic nor mandatory, but is at the discretion of the unit commander. Commanders must request grade reinstatement through channels in accordance with CAPR 35-5, CAP Officer & Noncommissioned Officer Appointments and Promotions.

(2) Members renewing within 2 years of their membership expiration date will send dues along with a new fingerprint card directly to NHQ/PMM.


Its interesting that the first section says that a unit CC has to accept the late renewal, but the followup says to send the money and fingerprint card
direct to NHQ.  I could certainly see a member doing that and never contacting the unit CC.

"That Others May Zoom"

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To summarize, for the fist 90 days (you are already past this) you would renew by contacting NHQ  and paying your dues.  Grade and PD training are automatically reinstated.

From day 91 to day 180, you can renew as above, but commanders are allowed to not accept the renewal. Grade and PD training are automatically reinstated.

From day 181 to the end of the second year, you would need to also submit a fingerprint card and pay all back dues, but commanders are allowed to not accept the renewal. Grade and PD training are automatically reinstated.

If you choose to rejoin instead of renew in the first two years, after 90 days, you would need to apply just like a new member. If accepted by the commander, PD levels will be reinstated but grade will not. You would need to be reappointed and it needs to be approved at the same level as the original promotion.

After two years, you would need to apply just like a new member. If accepted by the commander, you would need to redo Level I, but the remaining PD will be reinstated, but grade will not. You would need to be reappointed and it needs to be approved at the same level as the original promotion.



Garibaldi

Still a major after all these years.
ES dude, leadership ossifer, publik affaires
Opinionated and wrong 99% of the time about all things

paladin82

Quote from: Eclipse on November 06, 2012, 11:34:15 PM
Renewals over 180 days requie a new fingerprint card.  Depending on the date you termed, yo may already be past that.
If not, the clock is ticking loudly.

My membership expired on 5/31/12.  I should still have 3 weeks+ remaining from today.

I emailed the sqrn cmdr last night and he wants me to return.

Eclipse

We've got a Thanksgiving shutdown coming up and are in the middle of the largest CAP ES operation in about 5 years.

Get that app into the mail today!

"That Others May Zoom"

SARDOC

Quote from: paladin82 on November 07, 2012, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 06, 2012, 11:34:15 PM
Renewals over 180 days requie a new fingerprint card.  Depending on the date you termed, yo may already be past that.
If not, the clock is ticking loudly.

My membership expired on 5/31/12.  I should still have 3 weeks+ remaining from today.

I emailed the sqrn cmdr last night and he wants me to return.

Just pick up the phone and call membership services at National Headquarters...they will tell you everything you need...take your Credit Card number and you're done.

Angus

#9
If a member is late in renewing, I know everything gets reinstated if its' within 90 days.  Does that go for TIG as well?

never mind just found the answer on knowledge base.
Lt Col Richard J. Walsh, Jr.
Director Education & Training MAWG 
 Gill Robb Wilson #4030

flyboy53

Quote from: paladin82 on November 06, 2012, 10:02:39 PM
When my membership ended at the end of May, I opted not to renew it.  Lately, I have been thinking that may not have been the best idea.  I was a 2d Lt, and I need to know how long I have to renew before I have to start all over.

Thanks.

Call NHQ ASAP and renew your membership. Not sure about the CPPT, but at least there won't be a break in service.