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Started by dogboy, August 27, 2012, 11:01:56 PM

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dogboy

For reliable information on health issues for HSOs, Medical and Nurse Officers and anyone else interested

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAP_HEALTH_SERVICES/

Pylon

Wow.  Any reason for the angry tone and really harsh "rules" on the join page?  Particularly (paraphrasing here):  [Cue All-Caps] SEND ME EXACTLY THIS INFORMATION I WANT AND IF YOU DON'T OR MAKE A MISTAKE I BAN YOU FOR LIFE!"


Doesn't exactly look like an inviting group to me, as an outsider.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

SarDragon

Maybe a little harsh, but there are more folks than you think out there that need the big verbal baseball bat. And even then, after seeing a very clear set of directions, some people will still choose to not follow them.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
55 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Pylon

Quote from: SarDragon on August 27, 2012, 11:16:14 PMAnd even then, after seeing a very clear set of directions, some people will still choose to not follow them.


We don't do that in CAP.  People need guidance but it doesn't have to be framed in a negative tone. "IF YOU FILL OUT THIS MEMBERSHIP FORM WRONG, OR DON'T DO EVERYTHING IN THE MANUAL RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM CAP FOR EVARRR!"
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

a2capt

Ah, you must have read the new CAPR 39-2 that is going to be published on 19-Sept, 2012. ;)

dogboy

Quote from: Pylon on August 27, 2012, 11:08:28 PM
Wow.  Any reason for the angry tone and really harsh "rules" on the join page?  Particularly (paraphrasing here):  [Cue All-Caps] SEND ME EXACTLY THIS INFORMATION I WANT AND IF YOU DON'T OR MAKE A MISTAKE I BAN YOU FOR LIFE!"


Doesn't exactly look like an inviting group to me, as an outsider.

I inherited the join page rules and I will review them. Thank you for calling them to my attention.

However, I understand the necessity for screening potential members. There are many spammers and fringe groups in health care. Our Yahoo group uses "evidence-based" medicine only and postings that do not conform to this standard are removed.

Thank you again for calling my attention to the issue.

Eclipse

Quote from: dogboy on August 28, 2012, 03:22:57 AMHowever, I understand the necessity for screening potential members. There are many spammers and fringe groups in health care. Our Yahoo group uses "evidence-based" medicine only and postings that do not conform to this standard are removed.

What, in a CAP-HSO context, are you discussing where "evidence-based-medicine" would ever come up?

"That Others May Zoom"

dogboy

Quote from: Eclipse on August 28, 2012, 03:26:51 AM
Quote from: dogboy on August 28, 2012, 03:22:57 AMHowever, I understand the necessity for screening potential members. There are many spammers and fringe groups in health care. Our Yahoo group uses "evidence-based" medicine only and postings that do not conform to this standard are removed.

What, in a CAP-HSO context, are you discussing where "evidence-based-medicine" would ever come up?

I suggest you read the Yahoo group.

dogboy

Quote from: Pylon on August 27, 2012, 11:08:28 PM
Wow.  Any reason for the angry tone and really harsh "rules" on the join page?  Particularly (paraphrasing here):  [Cue All-Caps] SEND ME EXACTLY THIS INFORMATION I WANT AND IF YOU DON'T OR MAKE A MISTAKE I BAN YOU FOR LIFE!"


Doesn't exactly look like an inviting group to me, as an outsider.

Appropriate changes made. Thank you for pointing out the issue.

Pylon

Quote from: dogboy on August 28, 2012, 04:25:21 AM
Appropriate changes made. Thank you for pointing out the issue.


Nice. Looks much more inviting to new-comers than it was before.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

dogboy

Quote from: Pylon on August 28, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: dogboy on August 28, 2012, 04:25:21 AM
Appropriate changes made. Thank you for pointing out the issue.


Nice. Looks much more inviting to new-comers than it was before.

Our motto at the CAP Health Services Yahoo Group:

"It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice".

Eclipse

Quote from: dogboy on August 28, 2012, 03:38:53 AM
I suggest you read the Yahoo group.

I was a member many moons ago, and it was basically two threads:

"Wouldn't it be cool if we could..."

&

"It's totally a bummer that we can't..."

Since HSO's and MO's can't treat CAP patients, nor do anything else beyond basic first aid, and that hasn't changed in a decade, nor is it likely to change in the foreseeable future, I can't imagine what might be discussed, especially if you have to limit it to "evidence-based-medicine", but the implication is
that there's a fair amount of non-CAP-related discussions, and members have tried to introduce alternative and new-age medicine.  Knowing
some of the "ideas" our valued members have, it would not surprise me in the least.

I can just imagine the level of righteous indignation when their idea to mandate positive-ion bracelets to all the cadets are knocked back.

Whatever, more power to ye' all!

"That Others May Zoom"

PA Guy

Evidence based medicine was consulted in writing some parts of the new Encampment Guidelines.

SJFedor

Quote from: PA Guy on August 29, 2012, 03:17:35 AM
Evidence based medicine was consulted in writing some parts of the new Encampment Guidelines.

I'd love to know exactly where in that guideline there's practices based on evidence based medicine.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

PA Guy

The sleep requirements and the use of energy drinks were the result of consulting evidence based medicine.

Eclipse

Quote from: PA Guy on August 29, 2012, 03:32:10 AM
The sleep requirements and the use of energy drinks were the result of consulting evidence based medicine.

Good on 'ya if you were responsible for getting it into the regs, but most encampments have barred soda and caffeine as a matter of practice since forever, and lots already had sleep policies which mirror what was published.

"That Others May Zoom"