How to handle disrespectful cadets

Started by red_sox_fan, August 05, 2012, 05:50:48 PM

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red_sox_fan

My cousin is also a cadet in CAP. So when i was promoted to Airmen first class he was still a Airmen basic. Well we went to a parade and he was being a idiot and being embarrasing to the unit. I confronted him he told me that he doesn't have to listen to me because i don't have much rank over him. So the question is, what should i reply back? Then what should i do? Report it up in the chain of command or ignore it? Or was he correct and i was wrong?
Cadet Senior Airman

Майор Хаткевич

You don't do anything. Your Cadet Staff should be managing it. If you are on the staff, then you take it up your chain of command.

lordmonar

Nothing funnier then a bunch of airman (AB-A1C) arguing about who outranks who.

First.....and formorest.......use your chain of command...that is how you handle it.  Your Amn friend is not recognising your A1C authrotity.....go find a SrA or SSgt and have him help you out.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Eclipse

You should leave it to your senior leadership to handle.

"That Others May Zoom"

red_sox_fan

Quote from: usafaux2004 on August 05, 2012, 05:53:55 PM
You don't do anything. Your Cadet Staff should be managing it. If you are on the staff, then you take it up your chain of command.
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.
Cadet Senior Airman

red_sox_fan

Quote from: lordmonar on August 05, 2012, 05:55:08 PM
Nothing funnier then a bunch of airman (AB-A1C) arguing about who outranks who.

First.....and formorest.......use your chain of command...that is how you handle it.  Your Man friend is not recognising your A1C authrotity.....go find aSTrA or SSgt and have him help you out.
Thank you now that makes sense.
Cadet Senior Airman

Eclipse

Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.

The Cadet in Charge should have been doing that, not passing the buck down to another cadet who hasn't even reached an NCO level yet.

"That Others May Zoom"

red_sox_fan

Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
I was told to go tell him to stop by the Cadet in charge.

The Cadet in Charge should have been doing that, not passing the buck down to another cadet who hasn't even reached an NCO level yet.
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order
Cadet Senior Airman

Eclipse

Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order

There are other options besides the extremes.

You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.

"That Others May Zoom"

red_sox_fan

Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order

There are other options besides the extremes.

You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.
My family? How do you mean?
Cadet Senior Airman

Eclipse

Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:20:23 PM
My family? How do you mean?

Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
My cousin is also a cadet in CAP. So when i was promoted to Airmen first class he was still a Airmen basic. Well we went to a parade and he was being a idiot and being embarrasing to the unit. I confronted him he told me that he doesn't have to listen to me because i don't have much rank over him. So the question is, what should i reply back? Then what should i do? Report it up in the chain of command or ignore it? Or was he correct and i was wrong?

Cousin, noun:
one related by descent in a diverging line from a known common ancestor, as from one's grandparent or from one's father's or mother's sister or brother.

"That Others May Zoom"

red_sox_fan

Quote from: Eclipse on August 05, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 05, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Very true but obviously what could of i done? Say no and go screw yourself? obviously no. I followed out the order

There are other options besides the extremes.

You respectfully indicate that you are not comfortable directing a member of your family, or, upon attempting to remediate the
situation anyway, to no avail, you tell the Cadet In Charge that the other cadet in question is not respecting your grade
and that his direct intervention is necessary.
I see now. Its not like its hard for me to confront him but it hard to say that you need to respect my grade to him because it will make me sound like i'm being a dictator just because i have one rank over him.
Cadet Senior Airman

Eclipse

Confidence in your leadership abilities will come with more experience.  Until then, disengage and leave it to the staff to handle.

"That Others May Zoom"

cap235629

Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......

Bill Hobbs, Major, CAP
Arkansas Certified Emergency Manager
Tabhair 'om póg, is Éireannach mé

RamibelD


red_sox_fan

Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.
Cadet Senior Airman

red_sox_fan

Cadet Senior Airman

JayT

Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.

You need to stop being so disrespectful, cadet.
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

Critical AOA

Quote from: JayT on August 08, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: red_sox_fan on August 08, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: cap235629 on August 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Though I am fond of you for knowing what a baseball team is, I would like to counsel you and recommend that you read more and post less......
I will do what i feel like. I agreed to improve my spelling when i'm on this forum (which i have done very well) but over my dead body you will tell me how much i'm allowed to post on this site.

You need to stop being so disrespectful, cadet.

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How can you expect a Cadet Airman to show respect to you, a Cadet Senior Airman, when you are so disrespectful toward others much higher in grade than yourself?