Hey guys! I found one.

[RogueLeader]

All Y'all are not going to believe it!! After almost 8 years in CAP, in 4 regions (MER, NCR,SWR, and RMR) and meeting dozens of CAP "Rangers"; I have finally met the one cadet HMRS student that DID NOT have an attitude problem.  From having about a 30 min conversation with this one man, he was interested in other skills that won't be much use out here, west of the Mississippi.  He did not have the standard issue Elite Mentality that seems to be slipped into their ruck sack on outprocess.  Congrats to that cadet.

[Cool Mace]

They are few and far between, but they do exist. I've met one (count it, 1) myself.

Just goes to show that there is always hope. 

[Extremepredjudice]

I have met one...

[PHall]

Guys, it doesn't count if it's the same person!

[Майор Хаткевич]

Still searching personally.

[Stonewall]

The only one I met like this was in 1990.  He transferred to my squadron in FL from PA and had attended Hawk.  No tab, no nothing.  One day, I mentioned that I heard a rumor about some CAP Ranger course and he's like "yeah, I went there".  He had been in the unit for months without ever mentioning it.  He was squared away and good to go.  He brought his CAP "tab" to show us and I think a certificate.  We were impressed.  I thought all CAP Rangers were like that until I moved north and learned otherwise.

[Eclipse]

It's an interesting and unfortunate paradigm...

The reason that the "silent majority" is rarely encountered is because they are the silent majority - the members who go to HMRS because it's "fun", or "challenging", or "their thing", but understand where it fits not only in the Grand Scheme^®, but also can read the local politics. 

The small number of "others" are usually a challenge to work with for other reasons, with 'tude being a symptom of larger problems.  The same can be said for other HAAs and NCSAs as well. 

[blackrain]

I would recommend CAP Rangers with "tude" try the other Ranger School at Benning (and other select locals) to put things in perspective

[Майор Хаткевич]

On the cadet front, I found this to be true:

If going because of the bling, expect a 'tude upon return.

Unfortunately, at least in my experience the few that have gone from our area went for this reason.

[Private Investigator]

The only one I met like this was in 1990. 

Since 2001 things have changed, JMHO   

[lordmonar]

You know......I have never met anyone with the "RANGER" attitude....but I have not met many rangers.....but I certainly have met a lot of people with the "antiranger" attitude.......and I don't really like either.

Do we really need this thread?  If you want to bash rangers....go to a thread started  by one. 

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I would recommend CAP Rangers with "tude" try the other Ranger School at Benning (and other select locals) to put things in perspective

SERE...

[RogueLeader]

You know......I have never met anyone with the "RANGER" attitude....but I have not met many rangers.....but I certainly have met a lot of people with the "antiranger" attitude.......and I don't really like either.

Do we really need this thread?  If you want to bash rangers....go to a thread started  by one. 

I'm not bashing any ranger. I'm just sharing my surprise at finding one without an attitude. In truth, I find the AIRBORNE attitude just as annoying in the army.

[CharlieMike]

I'm actually from Pennsylvania Wing, and HMRS is a fairly big deal up here. Well...not for me, but still.
A lot of my friends are rangers, in fact one of my closest friends is ranger staff, and she's pretty awesome. So I guess it's all about distribution. A lot of the PAWG Rangers have the ranger attitude, but since we have so many, it's easier to find chill ones. The issue in other wings is that rangers are few and far between, and as such they would be encouraged to act even more extreme in their attitude.

[Flying Pig]

There was a time I thought I was pretty awesome too.  Sq Commander in AFJROTC, Cadet Commander in CAP, chest full of CAP and JROTC  medals, 3 trips to NCC,

Right up until real life was put into perspective  Your first 5 minutes at Marine Corps Recruit Depot - San Diego

[SarDragon]

Yup, arrival at recruit training is very humbling.

[fyrfitrmedic]

It's an interesting and unfortunate paradigm...

The reason that the "silent majority" is rarely encountered is because they are the silent majority - the members who go to HMRS because it's "fun", or "challenging", or "their thing", but understand where it fits not only in the Grand Scheme^®, but also can read the local politics. 

The small number of "others" are usually a challenge to work with for other reasons, with 'tude being a symptom of larger problems.  The same can be said for other HAAs and NCSAs as well.

+1000

[PHall]

Yup, arrival at recruit training is very humbling.

Especially when you were the "troop commander", i.e. you carried everybodies paperwork, and you end up a body short because that body decided to get off the plane in Phoenix because he decided he didn't want to be in the Air Force.

Makes for a "real interesting" conversation with the Senior MTI at the San Antonio Airport!

[Starlock]

There was a C/SSGT in my old squadron that was so humble as to decline the acceptance of his Ranger tab. Kudos to him. Never heard him brag about it, much less talk about it (and yes, he survived the whole week)

[Flying Pig]

There was a C/SSGT in my old squadron that was so humble as to decline the acceptance of his Ranger tab. Kudos to him. Never heard him brag about it, much less talk about it (and yes, he survived the whole week)

I dont know if thats humbling or not.  Actually seems a little silly.   Accept it and decide to not sew it on.   Refusing the tab at graduation seems more of a production than just putting it in a box once your home.