I would like to join the US Army Cadet Corps?

[KERALA]

Are there units in North Dakota?
How to join?

I already tried to apply for more info but got nothing

[a2capt]

You filled out this form? ...within the last 30 days?

http://fs8.formsite.com/USAC/Cadets/index.html

I know it's been explained, but it really would be helpful to at least be able to tell what cities/areas there are units. The pre-screening text makes it sound kinda ... well, special.

Even though that's what CAP is supposed to do, too. The CAP method doesn't suggest elitism.

[Spaceman3750]

I believe COL Land roams the halls of CAPTalk from time to time. With any luck he will see this and point you in the right direction.

[COL Land]

We do not have a unit in North Dakota.  The nearest unit is forming in Aberdeen, SD.

[a2capt]

Hey, at least it's in ___ Dakota. Could be worse.

Aberdeen, SD., is closer to more big cities in ND, than SD, though ;-) ... all 8 square miles of it.

[tsrup]

Hey, at least it's in ___ Dakota. Could be worse.

Aberdeen, SD., is closer to more big cities in ND, than SD, though ;-) ... all 8 square miles of it.

[SARguyFVCS]

How about any in chicagoland?

[Eclipse]

How about any in chicagoland?

Nothing in that area.

[SARguyFVCS]

How would one go about trying to get one formed?

[NIN]

How would one go about trying to get one formed?

Army Cadet Pamphlet 210-1, Formation of Units of the United States Army Cadet Corps

Thats a good start.

[SARguyFVCS]

where can I find the application to this? Do the officers in charge have to be a member of USACC before you even start a unit/detachment? Do I only need 3 others to form a detachment? Is there a deadline for chartering?

     It says "In order to obtain an official Charter as a USAC Company, the
following must occur: Obtain an enrollment of not less than 21 Cadets and four
officers, NCOs or USAC Civilians within 18 months of
receiving your Provisional Charter. At least one
commissioned officer must serve as the Company
Commander.
   A minimum of 90% of enrolled recruits must attend Basic
Cadet Training, usually scheduled in mid-summer."

Does this mean we have to wait until 21 cadets join to form an Official unit? Then what kind of charter do we get if it is a Detachment?

[RogueLeader]

where can I find the application to this? Do the officers in charge have to be a member of USACC before you even start a unit/detachment? Do I only need 3 others to form a detachment? Is there a deadline for chartering?

     It says "In order to obtain an official Charter as a USAC Company, the
following must occur: Obtain an enrollment of not less than 21 Cadets and four
officers, NCOs or USAC Civilians within 18 months of
receiving your Provisional Charter. At least one
commissioned officer must serve as the Company
Commander.
   A minimum of 90% of enrolled recruits must attend Basic
Cadet Training, usually scheduled in mid-summer."

Does this mean we have to wait until 21 cadets join to form an Official unit? Then what kind of charter do we get if it is a Detachment?

I would ask specific questions to COL Land, http://captalk.net/index.php?action=profile;u=961 as he is well acquainted with the USACC.

[Eclipse]

Do the officers in charge have to be a member of USACC before you even start a unit/detachment? Do I only need 3 others to form a detachment? Is there a deadline for chartering?

The USAC has a very high bar for training and expectations of their commanders and staff, this is not a situation where you'll get two
other cadets together and a 1/2-interested adult and form a unit, and that assumes they are even capable or interested in the expansion Westward.

Col Land or NIN is your best source here.

[NIN]

Short version (although the steps are in the pamphlet)

You start by inquiring about forming a unit.

You find potential cadre.

Then, your interested adults come to HQ for what is called ACCOT (Army Cadet Cadre Orientation Training).  Make no mistake: Your folks are coming to the mountain, or no unit will be formed.

Your cadre go back and prepare to recruit recruits, conduct Recruit Orientation and prepare to send recruits and cadre to Annual Training.

Some cadre will go to OCS, some will attend the NCOS portion. Recruits will go to BCT (Basic Cadet Training). This is not optional. EVERYBODY in the organization goes thru IET and then Annual Training thereafter. This is how it works.

Recruits who successfully complete BCT can go on to BLC and other programs during the summer (we had 7+ weeks of summer training in the pipeline this year)

Adults complete their 8-9 days of OCS Phase I or NCOS and go back to the unit.

A unit remains as a "detachment" with an OIC until it has enough members to satisfy the requirements for a company.

Its pretty much all right there in the book.

Colonel Land is definitely a prospective cadre member's first stop.

Let me tell you a couple things over the 6+ years I've been in the organization:

1) Units come and go. The ones with ONE motivator are not going to succeed. Ever.  Never. Haven't ever.  Not at all.
2) To be successful, a unit must have more than 2-3, preferably more like 5-6, adults who are willing to go the distance. The process to become a cadre member in the USAC is NOT SHORT.  Its not "six months and here's your butter bar for showing up."  Not everybody becomes an officer in the USAC anymore.  OCS is MORE THAN A YEAR. Its like Guard OCS.  A week long AT followed by 11 months of online training followed by a 2nd weeklong AT.  You go from "raising your right hand" to 2LT in, when all the stars line up, 14+ months, if you're lucky. It is usually longer.  Expect it. If your cadre are looking for 2LT this year, they should look harder at CAP.
3) Forming a unit is not for the faint of heart. You need bodies (adults) and bodies (recruits) to make it work. But you need adults. More than 1. Lots more than 1.  Maybe lots more than 3. And it is not happening overnight.  Ever.


BTW, I took about 1/3 to 1/2 of the photos in that pam, and thats my smiling mug on the ID card on Page 75.

[SARguyFVCS]

Thank you so much Sir for the information. Very helpful!