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Started by Dad2-4, December 21, 2011, 09:40:21 AM

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Dad2-4

Just completed CLC. One step closer to finishing Lvl III and promotion to Major. Feeling pretty good right now, and renewed sense of dedication to the organization.  :)

SarDragon

Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
55 Year Member
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C/WO, CAP, Ret

SARDOC

Quote from: Dad2-4 on December 21, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
Feeling pretty good right now, and renewed sense of dedication to the organization.  :)

Good for you and it just goes to show...Opportunity makes for happy volunteers.

Private Investigator

Congratulations.

SLS, CLC, RSC, NSC and of course UCC, all is great for that renewed sense of dedication.

That is why I do not understand new people wanting to take all of them in 12 months.

James Shaw

Quote from: Dad2-4 on December 21, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
Just completed CLC. One step closer to finishing Lvl III and promotion to Major. Feeling pretty good right now, and renewed sense of dedication to the organization.  :)

Congrats and let us know when the promotion comes through.
Dr. Jim Shaw, D.O.S.H.
Occupational Safety & Health / Emergency Management
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - SER-SO
USCGA:2019 - National Safety Team
SGAUS: 2017 - MEMS Academy State Director (Iowa)

SARDOC

Quote from: Private Investigator on December 22, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
Congratulations.

SLS, CLC, RSC, NSC and of course UCC, all is great for that renewed sense of dedication.

That is why I do not understand new people wanting to take all of them in 12 months.

I would have taken them all in 12 months if you didn't have to be a Major to go to NSC.

exFlight Officer


Quote from: Dad2-4 on December 21, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
Just completed CLC. One step closer to finishing Lvl III and promotion to Major. Feeling pretty good right now, and renewed sense of dedication to the organization.  :)


Congrats Dad2-4! :D 

Quote from: SARDOC on December 22, 2011, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on December 22, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
Congratulations.

SLS, CLC, RSC, NSC and of course UCC, all is great for that renewed sense of dedication.

That is why I do not understand new people wanting to take all of them in 12 months.

I would have taken them all in 12 months if you didn't have to be a Major to go to NSC.


+ 1  but I would retake these courses (SLS, CLC, UCC) every few years as a refresher.

Phil Hirons, Jr.

Quote from: Flight Officer on December 22, 2011, 05:07:55 PM
+ 1  but I would retake these courses (SLS, CLC, UCC) every few years as a refresher.

Even better, teach at some of them.

Stonewall

I don't know if rules have changed, but I took CLC before SLS back in the day.  CLC was available first so I got it out of the way.
Colonel, CAP (Ret)
1987-1992 (Cadet)
1992-2025 (Senior)

exFlight Officer

Quote from: phirons on December 22, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: Flight Officer on December 22, 2011, 05:07:55 PM
+ 1  but I would retake these courses (SLS, CLC, UCC) every few years as a refresher.

Even better, teach at some of them.


Excellent Idea!  2012 plans may allow me to do just that :D

EMT-83

Quote from: Stonewall on December 22, 2011, 06:09:29 PM
I don't know if rules have changed, but I took CLC before SLS back in the day.  CLC was available first so I got it out of the way.

You now need to complete SLS before you can get credit for CLC.

DBlair

I found the CLC curriculum to be useful for those wanting to progress to higher echelons within CAP, whereas SLS is designed with the new member in mind.

I believe UCC is a great opportunity to train current/future Commanders, but it seems many take the weekend to network instead of seriously focusing on the material (then again, this seems true for most CAP courses) with sometimes vague, generalized, or soft topics covered rather than more on some of the practical/organizational details that Commanders really need to know in order to be effective and not accidentally overlook or fumble through things-- covering these areas in UCC would greatly reduce many of the problems I've seen surface in our organization. It is certainly a good start, but I believe can be improved here and there.

TLC is my favorite of the PD courses and I've found is one of (if not *the*) the most useful/practical courses in CAP. I encourage all SMs to take this course, regardless of whether or not you are involved in the Cadet Program, and regardless of how long you've been in CAP. This course is essentially "Cadet Programs 101" and provides SMs an A-Z understanding of the CP with the most current information presented, so attending as a refresher is not a bad idea.

I've instructed a bit and hope to do more in 2012, in addition to enrolling in ACSC, etc.
DANIEL BLAIR, Lt Col, CAP
C/Lt Col (Ret) (1990s Era)
Wing Staff / Legislative Squadron Commander

Dad2-4

The capmembers website lists UCC in the online courses section with a (New) beside it. But when you click on it, it just goes to the UCC information page with a link to upcoming classroom courses. Is it supposed to be online "soon" or what's the deal?

EMT-83

The "new" refers to the updated course material, which was released in October.

I've heard nothing indicating UCC will be offered on-line.

Private Investigator

Quote from: SARDOC on December 22, 2011, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on December 22, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
Congratulations.

SLS, CLC, RSC, NSC and of course UCC, all is great for that renewed sense of dedication.

That is why I do not understand new people wanting to take all of them in 12 months.

I would have taken them all in 12 months if you didn't have to be a Major to go to NSC.

But what do you get out of them if you took them all in 12 months? You will be the guy who says, "this is how we did it in 1983!"

SARDOC

Quote from: Private Investigator on December 28, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: SARDOC on December 22, 2011, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on December 22, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
Congratulations.

SLS, CLC, RSC, NSC and of course UCC, all is great for that renewed sense of dedication.

That is why I do not understand new people wanting to take all of them in 12 months.

I would have taken them all in 12 months if you didn't have to be a Major to go to NSC.

But what do you get out of them if you took them all in 12 months? You will be the guy who says, "this is how we did it in 1983!"

It's professional development...I actually got a lot out of it.  I actually took them when they were all part of the same curriculum series so they actually built off of each other.  Instead of waiting years to take courses having absolutely no recollection of the last class.  See now I can be the guy that helps teach these courses and you can always retake them to stay current.    Professional Development really shouldn't stop...You should always be continuing your training and trying to be a valuable asset to the organization instead of an out of date place holder.  I really don't know if I will do 20 years to retire from Civil Air Patrol but while I do participate with this organization, I'll keep doing the best that I can.  If I ever become the guy who says "This is how we did it in 2010!"  Then it's time to move on and do something else.

Private Investigator

Quote from: SARDOC on December 28, 2011, 02:44:15 PMSee now I can be the guy that helps teach these courses and you can always retake them to stay current.   

Professional Development really shouldn't stop...You should always be continuing your training and trying to be a valuable asset to the organization instead of an out of date place holder.

Example on a military base the largest classroom I can have seats 40 students. So we have 40 students in a SLS and its 100% full every year. If somebody wants to retake the SLS course to stay current; will they sit on the floor or bump a new SM out of class?

Prof Dev never stops. As a good Squadron Commander you should do a refresher on main topics, i.e. how to write a memo or professional letter. Et cetera, etc.

JMHO ..

EMT-83

If you're maxing out on the number of students, offer more classes. Not like they're hard to do...

Private Investigator

Quote from: EMT-83 on December 29, 2011, 01:32:40 PM
If you're maxing out on the number of students, offer more classes. Not like they're hard to do...

On a military base you actually do not have the luxury to tell the Base Commander when you want to do your activity. They tell you the April 2 and October 1, 2011 weekends is yours for the education building and you go for it.

Of course some Wings do SLS for nine students in the basement of a church so that is really doable for them. Next month come back and you can be the Director.

JeffDG

Quote from: Private Investigator on December 29, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on December 29, 2011, 01:32:40 PM
If you're maxing out on the number of students, offer more classes. Not like they're hard to do...

On a military base you actually do not have the luxury to tell the Base Commander when you want to do your activity. They tell you the April 2 and October 1, 2011 weekends is yours for the education building and you go for it.

Of course some Wings do SLS for nine students in the basement of a church so that is really doable for them. Next month come back and you can be the Director.
Is there a particular reason that you couldn't hold classes somewhere else at different times in addition to those?