Extra uniform supplies question

[Extremepredjudice]

I dunno if this has been asked, but here goes:

Minus "standard uniforms" (i.e. Blues, Bdus, etc) does your squadron dole out "extras" to officers, and dedicated cadets(and SMs) Things like service coats, sweaters, bus driver hats, the blues utility jacket, etc.

Or do you give them to "competition cadets"(and escorts), and give stuff to your color guard/drill team? Or other competitions.

Or do you just hoard the stuff?   

Or do you allow cadets and SMs to buy the stuff from the squadron?

Or something I didn't metion.


On a side-note, does anyone know where you can buy a blues utility jacket?

[PHall]

What the heck is a "blues utility jacket"?

[Thrashed]

The blues light jacket? I got one used on EBay.

[DBlair]

All of those items are on an "as available" basis in that if the unit has it available, and it fits the member, then they might get it.

As for Comp uniforms, those are usually brand new uniforms.

[jimmydeanno]

We tend to get a lot of stuff donated.  "Extra stuff" is issued to whomever doesn't have one yet.  If we have it, it does no one any good hanging on the bar unused.

We don't keep non uniform items around.  Things like desert Bdus, ponchos, etc get put on a table for whoever wants to take it home.

[Salty]

When I was a cadet we had a utility room filled with stuff in our squadron building.  Our wing headquarters building had its own uniform room and hock shop.

[PHall]

The blues light jacket? I got one used on EBay.

How about doing something unusual, like calling it by it's real name.

Lightweight Blue Jacket.

That's what they call it in both CAPM 39-1 and AFI 36-2903.

[Extremepredjudice]

The blues light jacket? I got one used on EBay.

How about doing something unusual, like calling it by it's real name.

Lightweight Blue Jacket.

That's what they call it in both CAPM 39-1 and AFI 36-2903.

Mmm, I always heard it as "utility jacket"

[PHall]

The blues light jacket? I got one used on EBay.

How about doing something unusual, like calling it by it's real name.

Lightweight Blue Jacket.

That's what they call it in both CAPM 39-1 and AFI 36-2903.

Mmm, I always heard it as "utility jacket"

Be bold, be brave, read the manual.

[spacecommand]

For something like service jackets, if we have any donated ones I try to give them out to the senior cadet staff (cadet commander etc) if they don't already have one, then I work on down asking the dedicated cadets (the ones who consistently show up at meetings) if they want a service jacket.  However it's hard as when we get donated jackets they tend to be not cadet sized.  We don't have many 44XL sized cadets.

[Extremepredjudice]

The blues light jacket? I got one used on EBay.

How about doing something unusual, like calling it by it's real name.

Lightweight Blue Jacket.

That's what they call it in both CAPM 39-1 and AFI 36-2903.

Mmm, I always heard it as "utility jacket"

Be bold, be brave, read the manual.

but sir, ignorance is bliss!!

[AngelWings]

Just hand it out. Or sell it for a profit. My squadron got a few field desks we have absolutely no use for and are trying to sell (if you want one, ask me, $100 plus shipping  ) so we can get useful equipment. We also got a few pairs of moldy, useless bunny boots, a bunch of furniture, and some other cool stuff. We have had a bunch of desert uniform stuff that we just handed out to whoever wanted it in our squadron. A got huge haul of stuff that I love and helped me get into collecting desert stuff.

[SarDragon]

Y'all need to keep in mind that most stuff that's been directly acquired from the military, needs to be disposed of through the military, especially DRMO items. You can't just sell that stuff off. It needs to go back to DRMO. Them's the rules.

[Eclipse]

Y'all need to keep in mind that most stuff that's been directly acquired from the military, needs to be disposed of through the military, especially DRMO items. You can't just sell that stuff off. It needs to go back to DRMO. Them's the rules.

Assuming they are received properly and through those channels, after a year they no longer need to be tracked.

[SARDOC]

Assuming they are received properly and through those channels, after a year they no longer need to be tracked.

But All items received from DRMO must be returned to DRMO even if it an expendable uniform and is no longer servicable.  Unless you have specific approval from CAP-USAF to do so.

[Eclipse]

Assuming they are received properly and through those channels, after a year they no longer need to be tracked.

But All items received from DRMO must be returned to DRMO even if it an expendable uniform and is no longer servicable.  Unless you have specific approval from CAP-USAF to do so.

I'll have to go ahead and ask you to cite on that, specific to uniforms.  My information, from CAP-USAF, says that after a year they are no longer tracked or
need to be returned.

[SarDragon]

He beat me to the punch. I can find absolutely nothing in 174-1 that disengages accountability after one year.

It is very specific about Government-Sourced Property; there's a whole chapter on it (Ch 3). Specifically -
"Disposal of all property acquired from DRMO must be IAW CAP-USAF instructions. The process of reviewing DRMO property that may be available for transfer to CAP is called "screening." Screened property is not considered a donation, but is given to CAP under the condition that it be returned to DRMO when no longer required."

@ Eclipse - what/where is your specific guidance?

[SARDOC]

I'll have to go ahead and ask you to cite on that, specific to uniforms.  My information, from CAP-USAF, says that after a year they are no longer tracked or
need to be returned.

3-5. Expendable Items.
a. Indelibly mark all expendable property items obtained from Federal sources with the letters
"DRMO".   Record receipt and transfer of expendable property on the unit's  on-line Form 111 in
ORMS.  All FoB, DoD- or Federal-excess property that is unserviceable or no longer needed, must
be returned to DRMO and may not be sold, donated, bartered, or scrapped without specific approval
from CAP-USAF.

This applies to all DRMO Expendable items.   CAPR 174-1  2-15 a.  Gives Examples of Expendable items as Uniforms, Sleeping Bags and other individual use Items.

I know uniforms we receive from DRMO are stamped "DRMO" and we send them back when they are surveyed.

[AngelWings]

Y'all need to keep in mind that most stuff that's been directly acquired from the military, needs to be disposed of through the military, especially DRMO items. You can't just sell that stuff off. It needs to go back to DRMO. Them's the rules.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just completely wrote an off topic response to one of my topics like a binford.

[arajca]

I'll have to go ahead and ask you to cite on that, specific to uniforms.  My information, from CAP-USAF, says that after a year they are no longer tracked or
need to be returned.

3-5. Expendable Items.
a. Indelibly mark all expendable property items obtained from Federal sources with the letters
"DRMO".   Record receipt and transfer of expendable property on the unit's  on-line Form 111 in
ORMS.  All FoB, DoD- or Federal-excess property that is unserviceable or no longer needed, must
be returned to DRMO and may not be sold, donated, bartered, or scrapped without specific approval
from CAP-USAF.

This applies to all DRMO Expendable items.   CAPR 174-1  2-15 a.  Gives Examples of Expendable items as Uniforms, Sleeping Bags and other individual use Items.

I know uniforms we receive from DRMO are stamped "DRMO" and we send them back when they are surveyed.

One of the issues with the old CAP Depot was they were selling DRMO items to members without going through the appropriate processes. DMRO does have a disposal process that allows for local disposal. Typically used for items that are so used up there is no market whatsoever for them and the distance to the nearest DMRO facility is huge (like another state).